I don't think he asks too much. I think that he is in an echo chamber that only feeds back one idea.ringo wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 4:07 amFrom reading most of the comments. I assume from european white forum members. I can see the ignorance or just complete lack of understanding. You cannot know if you have never experienced structural racism or discrimination. It would take a lot of reasing as well as interacting with people who expereince this and knowing western imperial and colonial history to understand. It's very broad.Zynerji wrote: ↑Wed May 04, 2022 5:53 pmWhen does the personal responsibility of the folks that want these jobs come into the equation? The hard work, determination and effort that it takes is secondary to the passion necessary to choose that path in the first place.PlatinumZealot wrote: ↑Wed May 04, 2022 5:44 pm
Yes, but according to Lewis' study it is big disproportion. This sort of thing is very studied. For example, people always say that Asian students have an affinity for mathematics. They are strong math yes, but why? is it natural? Studies show this level of math ability had a strong relation to their agriculture. Asians tend to the most difficult crops, which require intense commitment and hard tireless work till harvesting time. This culture over thousands of years, created a sort of attitude of "stick-to-it-iveness." Their students to stick to math and keep working on it - so at the end of the day you get a broader net. So you see a high proportion of immigrant Asians in the STEM field in western countries. Note... culture...history conditions... America is currently making moves in how math is administered to its students at all levels to get them more up to speed with the boom in STEM in Asia.
Lewis has noticed the huge dearth of his people in STEM.. his study is to see how the culture...history conditions affect this, and he wants to improve this condition with the HELP of industry players. Help doesn't mean hiring under-qualified people. Most of the time person's have colour have to be exceptional to get the job anyway (like Lewis!)
It's a great study, and a good call for support.
Maybe folks of color just don't want certain jobs? When is their choices taken into account in this study? Have they charted the applications to these schools to see if anyone is applying in the first place, or is it an "outcome imbalance" that leads to the manufacturing of reasons to explain the differences?
But i think to believe Lewis is overreacting or lying is the wrong position to take. It screams of ignorance to look on the current set of drivers as well as the f1 teams thousands of employees and claim they are a diverse group.
as for your comments about football. There are historical reasons as to why there are more coloured people in the more "primal" sports.
example track, boxing, basketball, NFL.
These are easier to access sports and from an entertainnent and commercial point of view these sports were more tolerable for minorities to participate as there is an ownership and trading component. You should read american history on this. Formula 1 and Tennis and golf and so forth are gentle mens' sports. And the other country club sports.
It is not only a matter of people not wanting to participate or not being qualified enough.
I am sure earning millions for whacking a ball on a lawn is something that's not too dificult ro do or unattractive. There is a lot more to what Lewis speaks of that many fail to appreciate because they have never lived it.
But I am glad that the sport is looking into it and not taking the position that some here take, that Lewis is just being idle or asking for too much.
In any limited-opening group (F1 drivers here), there are literally hundreds of folks that don't get the chance.
It is what it is. And with how many ppl talk trash about Pay Drivers that dont deserve their seat on merit, how would they react to Affirmative Action drivers?