2022 Monaco Grand Prix - Monte Carlo, May 27 - 29

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search wrote:
28 May 2022, 17:38
how come no one is dicussing the penalty for Leclerc for missing the weight check?! Marko says normally he'll need to start last or even from the pits, and I think he is right
Because there is nothing to discuss. He stopped and returned car to FIA garage without any work on the car (except team crew pushing it back).

2022 Formula 1 sporting regulations, 5.2.1 a wrote:When signalled to do so the driver will proceed directly to the FIA garage and stop his
engine.

Any driver who fails to stop when asked to do so, and then fails to bring the car back to
the FIA garage, or if work is carried out on the car before it is returned to the FIA garage,
will be referred to the stewards.

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search wrote:
28 May 2022, 17:38
how come no one is dicussing the penalty for Leclerc for missing the weight check?! Marko says normally he'll need to start last or even from the pits, and I think he is right
Do you really want Leclerc to start from the pits because he unintentionally missed the weighing bridge by 20 meters and immediately after that was pushed back to position? :roll:

I'm trying to find the words for a person wishing that to the driver who more than deserved to be on pole. Is your fear this big?

Better forget it and move on.

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MV8 wrote:
28 May 2022, 17:56
atanatizante wrote:
28 May 2022, 17:52
We all know had tomorrow is a dry race there's a one-stop race. On this circumstances could it be a 50-55 laps first stint on M tyres and the second stint (23-28 laps on softs) a win strategy?
It's a good one
How much of a risk you're running at the start tho, if you're on mediums, and those around you are on softs ?
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Shrieker wrote:
28 May 2022, 18:20
MV8 wrote:
28 May 2022, 17:56
atanatizante wrote:
28 May 2022, 17:52
We all know had tomorrow is a dry race there's a one-stop race. On this circumstances could it be a 50-55 laps first stint on M tyres and the second stint (23-28 laps on softs) a win strategy?
It's a good one
How much of a risk you're running at the start tho, if you're on mediums, and those around you are on softs ?
Almost zero risk. There are hardly legal overtakes at the start due to a short rundown to turn 1. Only ones are when a car uses escape road that is meant for cars coming out of pits.

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Racer X wrote:
28 May 2022, 17:37
214270 wrote:
28 May 2022, 17:35
SirBastianVettel wrote:
28 May 2022, 17:33
Seeing the pictures with double yellow flags I think Sainz is in trouble.
Not that it matters but I think it was single yellow being waved. The light panel came on super late also, will be interesting to see what happens here.
I'm sure he won't be panelized, my only question is Perez and Sainz. Will either of them have gearbox issues? Also will either of them be panelized if they change gearbox, or does it tap into their reserve?
Slam dunk penalty, blind corner, didn’t lift in any meaningful way. Hit a stopped car. If there was a fire then a Marshall could very well have run on the track by then. They’ve no choice but to give a penalty otherwise what signal does that send..:

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Have someone the pole lap?
Just posting

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bonjon1979 wrote:
28 May 2022, 18:23
Racer X wrote:
28 May 2022, 17:37
214270 wrote:
28 May 2022, 17:35

Not that it matters but I think it was single yellow being waved. The light panel came on super late also, will be interesting to see what happens here.
I'm sure he won't be panelized, my only question is Perez and Sainz. Will either of them have gearbox issues? Also will either of them be panelized if they change gearbox, or does it tap into their reserve?
Slam dunk penalty, blind corner, didn’t lift in any meaningful way. Hit a stopped car. If there was a fire then a Marshall could very well have run on the track by then. They’ve no choice but to give a penalty otherwise what signal does that send..:
There is no chance he'll get penalized, sorry.

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This is the first time it was displayed to him, it's a single yellow, he's already turning in the corner and you can't see Perez, and of course he's braking since it's a corner, he's in 2nd gear too.

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It seemed a good 5-6 seconds whilst Perez was stopped before Sainz hit him.

Ill be massively shocked that the marshall on the corner took that long to put the flags out.

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atanatizante wrote:
28 May 2022, 17:52
We all know had tomorrow is a dry race there's a one-stop race. On this circumstances could it be a 50-55 laps first stint on M tyres and the second stint (23-28 laps on softs) a win strategy?
What happens at the start if the others around are on Soft (even if the run to T1 is very short) ?
What happens if there's a SC in the middle of your stint...
Tought call

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chrisc90 wrote:
28 May 2022, 18:31
It seemed a good 5-6 seconds whilst Perez was stopped before Sainz hit him.

Ill be massively shocked that the marshall on the corner took that long to put the flags out.
Didn’t you see the picture above? The point where Sainz saw the yellow flag for the first time is a braking zone where he already was slowing down at naturally. At the time he saw Perez, it was too late.

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LM10 wrote:
28 May 2022, 18:38
chrisc90 wrote:
28 May 2022, 18:31
It seemed a good 5-6 seconds whilst Perez was stopped before Sainz hit him.

Ill be massively shocked that the marshall on the corner took that long to put the flags out.
Didn’t you see the picture above? The point where Sainz saw the yellow flag for the first time is a braking zone where he already was slowing down at naturally. At the time he saw Perez, it was too late.
I mean there is much more chance for sainz to have seen the marshall with the yellow than where he was at. Its not the first possible chance he could have seen the marshall.

Maybe someone needs to go onboard with sainz and pick up his route/first possible chance to see the marshall as hes turning right and see if there were flags out.

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Spoutnik wrote:
28 May 2022, 18:33
atanatizante wrote:
28 May 2022, 17:52
We all know had tomorrow is a dry race there's a one-stop race. On this circumstances could it be a 50-55 laps first stint on M tyres and the second stint (23-28 laps on softs) a win strategy?
What happens at the start if the others around are on Soft (even if the run to T1 is very short) ?
What happens if there's a SC in the middle of your stint...
Tought call
If there is any chance at all of rain it would not be worth it. The softer tyres let them stay out longer in the wet even if it is not full wet conditions, and if it is a short period of wet the two tyre stops needed would send the car way down.

All depending on the forecast and how the locals call the chances of rain
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dialtone wrote:
28 May 2022, 18:28
bonjon1979 wrote:
28 May 2022, 18:23
Racer X wrote:
28 May 2022, 17:37


I'm sure he won't be panelized, my only question is Perez and Sainz. Will either of them have gearbox issues? Also will either of them be panelized if they change gearbox, or does it tap into their reserve?
Slam dunk penalty, blind corner, didn’t lift in any meaningful way. Hit a stopped car. If there was a fire then a Marshall could very well have run on the track by then. They’ve no choice but to give a penalty otherwise what signal does that send..:
There is no chance he'll get penalized, sorry.

https://i.postimg.cc/VmPqdCNS/IMG-3888.jpg

This is the first time it was displayed to him, it's a single yellow, he's already turning in the corner and you can't see Perez, and of course he's braking since it's a corner, he's in 2nd gear too.
Presumably, you can see the marshall waving the flag inshot. That was in sight from the time he turned the corner, that’s the issue if any not the digi panel.
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Perez/sainz would have had a clear view of the marshalling post from that point onwards. Which is probably a good 10 car lengths sooner. Thats the point in trying to make, is that the marshall would have had the flag out long before Dialtone grabbed a screenshot. Still waiting for the footage or when the yellow flag first come into view from the marshall.

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dialtone wrote:
28 May 2022, 18:28
bonjon1979 wrote:
28 May 2022, 18:23
Racer X wrote:
28 May 2022, 17:37


I'm sure he won't be panelized, my only question is Perez and Sainz. Will either of them have gearbox issues? Also will either of them be panelized if they change gearbox, or does it tap into their reserve?
Slam dunk penalty, blind corner, didn’t lift in any meaningful way. Hit a stopped car. If there was a fire then a Marshall could very well have run on the track by then. They’ve no choice but to give a penalty otherwise what signal does that send..:
There is no chance he'll get penalized, sorry.

https://i.postimg.cc/VmPqdCNS/IMG-3888.jpg

This is the first time it was displayed to him, it's a single yellow, he's already turning in the corner and you can't see Perez, and of course he's braking since it's a corner, he's in 2nd gear too.
There were Double Waved Yellows before the light came on at the Marshall point