2022 Japanese Grand Prix - Suzuka, Oct 07 - 09

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search wrote:
09 Oct 2022, 10:53
wasn't the race one lap too short? Rules only clarify the 2-hour situation, like in Singapore, in which case there would have been another lap - but I would have expected it to be the same when hitting the 3 hour window:

"should two hours elapse before the scheduled race distance is completed, the leader will be shown the end-of-session signal when he crosses the control line (the Line) at the end of the lap following the lap during which the two (2) hour period ended"

According to live timing, Verstappen made it over the line with 0:04 on the clock, but the race still finished at the end of that lap instead of the following one.
Haha. So the race isn’t finished!? Amazing

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How prophetic Jenson was! At a certain point, not sure which lap, he said, if he was Vettel, he would have boxed for another set of Inters. A lap later Alonso went for it and then immeidately Jenson said, it was one lap too late and it was indeed a lap late for Alonso! That was amazing. =D>

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bonjon1979 wrote:
09 Oct 2022, 11:00
search wrote:
09 Oct 2022, 10:53
wasn't the race one lap too short? Rules only clarify the 2-hour situation, like in Singapore, in which case there would have been another lap - but I would have expected it to be the same when hitting the 3 hour window:

"should two hours elapse before the scheduled race distance is completed, the leader will be shown the end-of-session signal when he crosses the control line (the Line) at the end of the lap following the lap during which the two (2) hour period ended"

According to live timing, Verstappen made it over the line with 0:04 on the clock, but the race still finished at the end of that lap instead of the following one.
Haha. So the race isn’t finished!? Amazing
Alpine told their drivers to "keep pushing", so they apparently thought so at least. But once getting past everyone but Verstappen, they slowed down as well.

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bonjon1979 wrote:
09 Oct 2022, 11:00
search wrote:
09 Oct 2022, 10:53
wasn't the race one lap too short? Rules only clarify the 2-hour situation, like in Singapore, in which case there would have been another lap - but I would have expected it to be the same when hitting the 3 hour window:

"should two hours elapse before the scheduled race distance is completed, the leader will be shown the end-of-session signal when he crosses the control line (the Line) at the end of the lap following the lap during which the two (2) hour period ended"

According to live timing, Verstappen made it over the line with 0:04 on the clock, but the race still finished at the end of that lap instead of the following one.
Haha. So the race isn’t finished!? Amazing
Alonso and Leclerc both also mentioned in interviews they were not sure whether it's last lap or not. Facepalm.

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mendis wrote:
09 Oct 2022, 11:01
How prophetic Jenson was! At a certain point, not sure which lap, he said, if he was Vettel, he would have boxed for another set of Inters. A lap later Alonso went for it and then immeidately Jenson said, it was one lap too late and it was indeed a lap late for Alonso! That was amazing. =D>
Feerari need to make that phone call and pay him whatever money he wants.

Scrub that.

Charles and Carlos need to come together and hire Jenson as a "coach" to. Discuss strategy before the races.

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I think its interesting to note the wear on the tyres of Charles' car compared to the red bulls. Charles were almost practically a slick. Redbulls still had grooves.

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mendis wrote:
09 Oct 2022, 11:01
How prophetic Jenson was! At a certain point, not sure which lap, he said, if he was Vettel, he would have boxed for another set of Inters. A lap later Alonso went for it and then immeidately Jenson said, it was one lap too late and it was indeed a lap late for Alonso! That was amazing. =D>
Yes, JB was the master of strategic thinking in wet/changing conditions, I knew he would be correct almost immediately.
Great insight and I enjoyed him as a commentator overall!

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mendis wrote:
09 Oct 2022, 10:34
From the FIA: "The rules regarding the reduced points allocation (article 6.5) only apply in the event of race suspension that cannot be resumed, and therefore full points are awarded and Max Verstappen is World Champion."
Who is making such stupid rules like that? Rules that makes it possible that a race with one lap only can get awarded with full points? A race can be stopped after the start, resumed for one lap only it will be awarded with full points? This is probably the most stupid rule ever!

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mendis wrote:
09 Oct 2022, 11:01
How prophetic Jenson was! At a certain point, not sure which lap, he said, if he was Vettel, he would have boxed for another set of Inters. A lap later Alonso went for it and then immeidately Jenson said, it was one lap too late and it was indeed a lap late for Alonso! That was amazing. =D>
Love Jensen so much in the commentary booth. If he is not the replacement for Brundle when he does sadly eventually retire, I will treat it as a war crime

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Andi76 wrote:
09 Oct 2022, 11:15
mendis wrote:
09 Oct 2022, 10:34
From the FIA: "The rules regarding the reduced points allocation (article 6.5) only apply in the event of race suspension that cannot be resumed, and therefore full points are awarded and Max Verstappen is World Champion."
Who is making such stupid rules like that? Rules that makes it possible that a race with one lap only can get awarded with full points? A race can be stopped after the start, resumed for one lap only it will be awarded with full points? This is probably the most stupid rule ever!
And interestingly, Red Bull and Mercedes seemed to be looking at the rules at the end, according to Ted on Sky. So someone in each team had read the rules fully and remembered it was not as was being described for the previous three hours.
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No chance Button is interested in a full time commentary gig. Got other interests, doesn’t need the money + has a family now. Stuck with the horrendous Crofty, and Martin ‘that needs a safety car’ Brundle
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BlueCheetah66 wrote:
09 Oct 2022, 11:18
mendis wrote:
09 Oct 2022, 11:01
How prophetic Jenson was! At a certain point, not sure which lap, he said, if he was Vettel, he would have boxed for another set of Inters. A lap later Alonso went for it and then immeidately Jenson said, it was one lap too late and it was indeed a lap late for Alonso! That was amazing. =D>
Love Jensen so much in the commentary booth. If he is not the replacement for Brundle when he does sadly eventually retire, I will treat it as a war crime
I wasn't a fan of his initially, but he's growing in to the role now. Reminds me a bit of James Hunt - knowledgeable but not taking it, or himself, too seriously. Just need him to swear about idiotic drivers like Hunt did and we're all good. =D>
If you are more fortunate than others, build a larger table not a taller fence.

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Andi76 wrote:
09 Oct 2022, 11:15
mendis wrote:
09 Oct 2022, 10:34
From the FIA: "The rules regarding the reduced points allocation (article 6.5) only apply in the event of race suspension that cannot be resumed, and therefore full points are awarded and Max Verstappen is World Champion."
Who is making such stupid rules like that? Rules that makes it possible that a race with one lap only can get awarded with full points? A race can be stopped after the start, resumed for one lap only it will be awarded with full points? This is probably the most stupid rule ever!
Technically its 3 laps. Does seem short, but thats the way the rules are.

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bonjon1979 wrote:
09 Oct 2022, 10:59
Max and red bull in a different league and thoroughly deserved. FIA have not had a great week, the delaying of the cost cap report until Monday, the tractor on track and the debacle at the end, once again makes the sport seem a bit of a joke. Even bigger questions will be raised if problems are found with red bulls budget. Especially as I’ve never seen what leclerc did penalised the first time it happens, particularly in the wet. But if that’s the new standard, no doubt we’ll see it repeated going forwards
The only time a Leclerc kind of incident was punished I can remember of was in 2019. Vettel returning to the track in Canada with Lewis following close. Yes Lewis had to brake as he tried to get around the outside. The FiA claimed that was dangerous driving yet most people disagreed. It’s called racing.
Today there was no dangerous situation at all, still Leclerc got a penalty. And this time they didn’t have to think more than 5 minutes instead of 4 hours after the race…..

This sport was already a political beast but some time ago it has taken a different direction. It’s merely a tv show only driven by politics. The wording “sport” or “technical genius” seem to become far fetched.

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Only caught bits of it but what happened with NOR?. Didn’t he pit for inters early like VET?
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