Now... Less of that!
Yes there will be. I also make non-technical posts. But there is a difference between non-technical and totally irrelevant or endless off-topic ping-pong.chrisc90 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 12, 2023 10:36 pmIt is near impossible to keep a race or team thread purely technical. That’ll be why they are in the General section of the forum.TimW wrote: ↑Tue Sep 12, 2023 10:05 pmI may be weird, but I don't visit F1 technical to read endless bickering on which driver used worse language against his mechanic, on if Helmut's prejudice is racism or worse racism, or for the most recent update on the Dutch Royal Family (and I'm Dutch).
And thinking 3 times before you post is actually good general advice, should be in the forum guidelinesThere will always be some non-technical chit chat about the forum. Inevitable.. Post here all non technical related topics about Formula One. This includes race results, discussions, testing analysis etc. TV coverage and other personal questions should be in Off topic chat.
You've probably never visited the Mercedes team threadTimW wrote: ↑Wed Sep 13, 2023 5:47 amYes there will be. I also make non-technical posts. But there is a difference between non-technical and totally irrelevant or endless off-topic ping-pong.
For example: what Helmut Marco said about Perez I consider relevant. It may affect team dynamics, his performance and wether or not he will be driving for RB in the future. But then a few posters make it into a many page discussion on how bad a person he is, along tribal lines, repeating the same arguments over and over.
This makes the whole RB team thread unreadable. Other relevant posts will go unnoticed because they drown in the sea of off-topic posts. Or they will not be posted because users avoid the thread, or even this forum.
So for those cases I applaud moderation.
This a salient point - moderation is like stewarding of the races. All anyone of us want is consistency. The Merc (and to a degree W14) thread has been the playground for a small number of people that constantly dig at Merc's well known issues - not constructive discussion but little digs. And it's basically made the thread a snug for a handful of RB fans. Which is ironic when I think back to RB fans telling others to stay out of "their" thread a couple of years ago.ValeVida46 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 13, 2023 9:04 amYou've probably never visited the Mercedes team thread
It's been happening there for months if not years.
If positive discourse is to be had there needs to be a consistent view on it. Red bull team threads have been a pretty serene place to visit until Marko's idiocy.
Perhaps entirely because other tribes don't frequent their thread posting an average 7 times daily about what their personal feelings are regarding the team it's drivers and staff. Note, it's absolutley par for the course to criticise.
But Ad Nauseum repeat shiteposting attacking a team week in week out can either be confined to a couple of teams, or it should be dealt with consistently for all teams. As the mods stepped in heavily on the RB thread, it might be worth taking a look at some other threads and see there is actually a very inconsistent approach right now.
.hollus wrote: ↑Tue Sep 12, 2023 10:00 pmWouter: in my opinion, those two pictures are off topic.
Yet, I only deleted one, I never saw the second one posted, only in your PM to me.
I have no idea what happened about the second deletion. Let me check again…
So… I have that joking wrestling picture deleted at 10:31. The link is there (soft deleted) but it won’t work for you:
Then, at 2PM this is in the thread:
So you actually posted that pic with king and microphone after all, and it stayed. I don’t think I saw it at the time. Is that the pic supposed to include wife and daughter?
And then I don’t see any second deleted picture. Not in the Dutch GP thread, and not in your posting history. Is this a giant misunderstanding?
.hollus wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 9:00 pmHi Wouter.
Sorry if I touched a soft spot, but it is literally a mod's job to set the line on when something is too far off topic in a forum or a thread.
In my opinion those two are.
And clearly, a pic of the just winner of the grand prix receiving whatever from the highest local protocol figure, is more on topic.
Absolutely.Just_a_fan wrote: ↑Wed Sep 13, 2023 9:28 amThis a salient point - moderation is like stewarding of the races. All anyone of us want is consistency. The Merc (and to a degree W14) thread has been the playground for a small number of people that constantly dig at Merc's well known issues - not constructive discussion but little digs. And it's basically made the thread a snug for a handful of RB fans. Which is ironic when I think back to RB fans telling others to stay out of "their" thread a couple of years ago.
I've had plenty of runs-in with the mods, but it happens because of frustration at perceived inconsistency and thus a feeling of "why bother to behave if others don't have to?". Childish? Certainly. But even those of us in our 50s can be childish now and then.
And I must admit to a little taste of schadenfreude reading some of the stuff this week...
As an aside time doesn't help finding a post unless the other person is in the same time zone as you. You might want to just give a link.