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[ringo]

It can also be bad. If they waste time fixing and the concept still ends up with low potential to develop.
It makes the decision to switch concepts even more cloudy, because the resources will be put to really seeing if the concept was not as bad.

[chrisc90]

It could also be that the correlation pointed the car to being faster than it actually is. Which was evident when there was big big updates coming that never materialised.

[El_KaPpa]

It could also be that the correlation pointed the car to being faster than it actually is. Which was evident when there was big big updates coming that never materialised.

Definitely they believed that the car is faster than actually is thus developed updates that were more aggressive than necessary. A big c**k.

[Hammerfist]

Im just confused with the timeline of this supposed event. When did they catch this? Was it before preseason testing began, after the last race or in between ? Its just not clear. Because all the talk of them seeing major gains in the wind tunnel recently is meaningless if they found the problem after that.

[Vanja #66]

I can honestly imagine Italian media getting some info about a small issue with WT models and blowing it completely out of proportion just for the fun of it... So don't take it too much into account. Everybody in Mercedes F1 is certainly more motivated than ever since 2014, so can anyone honestly imagine any person making such an amateurish mistake - no matter the pressure to get everything finished asap? The geometrical model correlation is in the back of the head 110% of the time for the WT team, geometry mismatch just doesn't happen...

[Wil992]

I can honestly imagine Italian media getting some info about a small issue with WT models and blowing it completely out of proportion just for the fun of it... So don't take it too much into account. Everybody in Mercedes F1 is certainly more motivated than ever since 2014, so can anyone honestly imagine any person making such an amateurish mistake - no matter the pressure to get everything finished asap? The geometrical model correlation is in the back of the head 110% of the time for the WT team, geometry mismatch just doesn't happen...

Yeah, you’re right, but I did have to smile to myself when I saw this job ad.

https://sportswork.co/jobs/mercedes-amg ... l-designer

[chrisc90]

Seems to tie in pretty well with the rumours.

25 days holiday seems very low for U.K. working.

[f1jcw]

Seems to tie in pretty well with the rumours.

25 days holiday seems very low for U.K. working.

No, it’s normal. I think I only have 24 + bank holidays

[chrisc90]

Seems to tie in pretty well with the rumours.

25 days holiday seems very low for U.K. working.

No, it’s normal. I think I only have 24 + bank holidays

4.8 weeks is your normal allowance.

I get 21 days plus the bank holiday. So I think it works out at 28 days in total including the bank holidays.

If the advert is 25 days plus bank holidays that’s good, but if it includes then it’s under the allowance

[mendis]

I can honestly imagine Italian media getting some info about a small issue with WT models and blowing it completely out of proportion just for the fun of it... So don't take it too much into account. Everybody in Mercedes F1 is certainly more motivated than ever since 2014, so can anyone honestly imagine any person making such an amateurish mistake - no matter the pressure to get everything finished asap? The geometrical model correlation is in the back of the head 110% of the time for the WT team, geometry mismatch just doesn't happen...

Yeah, you’re right, but I did have to smile to myself when I saw this job ad.

https://sportswork.co/jobs/mercedes-amg ... l-designer

Of all the people in the wind tunnel team, did they fire a graduate/junior model designer?

[f1jcw]

Seems to tie in pretty well with the rumours.

25 days holiday seems very low for U.K. working.

No, it’s normal. I think I only have 24 + bank holidays

4.8 weeks is your normal allowance.

I get 21 days plus the bank holiday. So I think it works out at 28 days in total including the bank holidays.

If the advert is 25 days plus bank holidays that’s good, but if it includes then it’s under the allowance

I don’t think it includes bank holidays.
I wonder how it works with the summer shut down.

[Stu]

How is this even a discussion?

[Sofa King]

We need a ranking of top 10 worst discussion tangents on this forum ASAP

How is this even a discussion?

[PlatinumZealot]

Taking it on face value that this story about incorrectly scaled wind tunnel parts has some merit, and obviously I’ve no idea whether it has or not. But assuming it has, my understanding is that parts have been scaled incorrectly for the wind tunnel models and therefore they are not representative of the full size car?
Presumably no such scaling occurs in the cfd models they use? Does that mean that the results of the wind tunnel tests are fed as inputs into the cfd models so even though the model is “full size” it’s using some incorrect source data and therefore will produce inaccurate results? Effectively masking the wind tunnel error?

Its not the scale that is problem. The scale is a given. The tolerances werw the issue they said.

[taperoo2k]

I can honestly imagine Italian media getting some info about a small issue with WT models and blowing it completely out of proportion just for the fun of it... So don't take it too much into account. Everybody in Mercedes F1 is certainly more motivated than ever since 2014, so can anyone honestly imagine any person making such an amateurish mistake - no matter the pressure to get everything finished asap? The geometrical model correlation is in the back of the head 110% of the time for the WT team, geometry mismatch just doesn't happen...

Yeah, you’re right, but I did have to smile to myself when I saw this job ad.

https://sportswork.co/jobs/mercedes-amg ... l-designer

Of all the people in the wind tunnel team, did they fire a graduate/junior model designer?

If this is a whole department that screwed up, knew they screwed up and said nothing? Then you'd expect all those directly involved to be fired. Mercedes have other job adverts up, including one for a senior structural analysis engineer.
https://sportswork.co/jobs/mercedes-amg ... s-engineer