2023 Mercedes-AMG | Petronas F1 Team

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The car just doesn’t work in the wet. Cant get the tires in the window at all. Id say a q3 appearance is unlikely.
Are they still running medium downforce?

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Hammerfist wrote:
17 Jun 2023, 20:29
The car just doesn’t work in the wet. Cant get the tires in the window at all. Id say a q3 appearance is unlikely.
Are they still running medium downforce?
Both cars made it to Q3 in similar conditions last year.

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Fourth and Fifth. Decent positions. Hulk should be swallowed up after a few laps. I like this version 1 of the vanilla pods. Can't wait to see version 2.
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zibby43 wrote:
17 Jun 2023, 20:32
Hammerfist wrote:
17 Jun 2023, 20:29
The car just doesn’t work in the wet. Cant get the tires in the window at all. Id say a q3 appearance is unlikely.
Are they still running medium downforce?
Both cars made it to Q3 in similar conditions last year.
And they have again.

In conditions that would have not suited the old spec car in qualifying, they were set to battle it out with ALO in Q3.

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PlatinumZealot wrote:
17 Jun 2023, 23:23
Fourth and Fifth. Decent positions. Hulk should be swallowed up after a few laps. I like this version 1 of the vanilla pods. Can't wait to see version 2.
Vanilla pods and new suspension have given them a platform that the drivers feel provides more consistency. And a clear development path moving forward.

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zibby43 wrote:
17 Jun 2023, 23:26
zibby43 wrote:
17 Jun 2023, 20:32
Hammerfist wrote:
17 Jun 2023, 20:29
The car just doesn’t work in the wet. Cant get the tires in the window at all. Id say a q3 appearance is unlikely.
Are they still running medium downforce?
Both cars made it to Q3 in similar conditions last year.
And they have again.

In conditions that would have not suited the old spec car in qualifying, they were set to battle it out with ALO in Q3.
Helped by the competence of the team and it's drivers to maximize their result in tricky conditions. Stroll and Ferrari were clowns today.

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AR3-GP wrote:
17 Jun 2023, 23:40
zibby43 wrote:
17 Jun 2023, 23:26
zibby43 wrote:
17 Jun 2023, 20:32


Both cars made it to Q3 in similar conditions last year.
And they have again.

In conditions that would have not suited the old spec car in qualifying, they were set to battle it out with ALO in Q3.
Helped by the competence of the team and it's drivers to maximize their result in tricky conditions. Stroll and Ferrari were clowns today.
LEC/the Ferrari just weren’t good enough in these conditions. There’s no way I’m putting all the blame on Ferrari operationally today.

The Mercs were 3-4 in Q1 as well. They lucked out in Q2 operationally, but the drivers and the car were capable all day.

I’m with Toni today.


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Lol at the “vanilla pods” term.

I look forward to see if lewis and george can pressure alonso tomorrow. That will show progress even on a rear limited circuit.

And i have to agree that leclerc’s demise was not solely on the pitwall. He has shown to be less than special in the rain so far in his career.

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PlatinumZealot wrote:
17 Jun 2023, 23:23
Fourth and Fifth. Decent positions. Hulk should be swallowed up after a few laps. I like this version 1 of the vanilla pods. Can't wait to see version 2.
He was swallowed up before even the race start.

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zibby43 wrote:
17 Jun 2023, 23:57
AR3-GP wrote:
17 Jun 2023, 23:40
zibby43 wrote:
17 Jun 2023, 23:26


And they have again.

In conditions that would have not suited the old spec car in qualifying, they were set to battle it out with ALO in Q3.
Helped by the competence of the team and it's drivers to maximize their result in tricky conditions. Stroll and Ferrari were clowns today.
LEC/the Ferrari just weren’t good enough in these conditions. There’s no way I’m putting all the blame on Ferrari operationally today.

The Mercs were 3-4 in Q1 as well. They lucked out in Q2 operationally, but the drivers and the car were capable all day.

I’m with Toni today.

https://twitter.com/tonisokolov1011/sta ... w2eCbwUjFA
Well, you should. They pretended to be more clever than the driver today. And they weren't.

I guess we'll see in the Palmer video what were those laps like. Might have been a lot of traffic. Or the car behaved crappily on inters with a dry racing line. All of which would be moot if they just let the driver do what he wanted.

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pursue_one's wrote:
18 Jun 2023, 07:21
Interesting comments at the end.

“Interesting” being the operative word.
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Almost like he didn’t want to admit that RB have wiped the grid with their floor detail.

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chrisc90 wrote:
18 Jun 2023, 10:54
Almost like he didn’t want to admit that RB have wiped the grid with their floor detail.
Whole interview sounded more like he was fed up of the stupid questions and uneducated assumptions the media like Ted constantly yap on about when they talk about features on various cars.

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chrisc90 wrote:
18 Jun 2023, 10:54
Almost like he didn’t want to admit that RB have wiped the grid with their floor detail.
I don't think the complexity makes it effective. It's just what you do when you're already comfortable fastest: add little tweaks, nooks and crannies here and there to improve the airflow a little bit.