2023 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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They had a decent second half of the season but they would want a much better season in 2024 with a closer gap with Red Bull. I am expecting them to have a much better 2024 than 2023 in terms of results with their new car. They have announced yesterday that they'll launch the 2024 Formula 1 car on February 13, just over two weeks before the start of the new season.
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Luca Baldisserri , for over 20 years at Ferrari and Michael Schumacher's track engineer:
“I am the type for Vasseur, for Leclerc, for Sainz and for all those who work within the racing department. But they have a problem. And this problem has a name and a surname. Max Verstappen. Each generation has its symbol. Senna, Schumi, Hamilton. And now it's the Dutchman's turn. He is in the cockpit of the fastest car, but he is also the best. Led by Perez, Red Bull is less stratospheric, less distant. There is an additional difference determined by the handle . Like Schumi's Ferrari when he was at the top: only Michael knew how to make it irresistible."

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3 year partnership with Estrella Galicia has come to an end. No renewal: https://www.f1technical.net/news/24338

Interesting...

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AR3-GP wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 1:36 am
3 year partnership with Estrella Galicia has come to an end. No renewal: https://www.f1technical.net/news/24338

Interesting...
This was known a few months ago.

It was rumoured there would be a direct swap between Estrella Galicia and Peroni with Aston Martin

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scuderiabrandon wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 9:43 am
AR3-GP wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 1:36 am
3 year partnership with Estrella Galicia has come to an end. No renewal: https://www.f1technical.net/news/24338

Interesting...
This was known a few months ago.

It was rumoured there would be a direct swap between Estrella Galicia and Peroni with Aston Martin
this is now confirmed

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FDD wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 11:26 am
Rory Byrn working on 676
https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-fe ... /10562513/
Does it concern people that F1 teams are still super reliant on old guard designers like Newey, Byrne, Fry, Permane with very few strong up and comers (I'd say Allison is somewhere in the middle of old and new guard -- he left but had to come back). What happens 10 years from now when the old crew is retired? Key was a flameout and Fallows initially just copied the RBR at AM but dropped off quickly after that...
You'd think with a new gen of designers more used to tech tools, they would have leapfrogged old ideas but I guess experience still counts?

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Macklaren wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 6:15 pm
FDD wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 11:26 am
Rory Byrn working on 676
https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-fe ... /10562513/
Does it concern people that F1 teams are still super reliant on old guard designers like Newey, Byrne, Fry, Permane with very few strong up and comers (I'd say Allison is somewhere in the middle of old and new guard -- he left but had to come back). What happens 10 years from now when the old crew is retired? Key was a flameout and Fallows initially just copied the RBR at AM but dropped off quickly after that...
You'd think with a new gen of designers more used to tech tools, they would have leapfrogged old ideas but I guess experience still counts?
Experience and Human. Hu-man - man with spirit.

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Macklaren wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 6:15 pm
FDD wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 11:26 am
Rory Byrn working on 676
https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-fe ... /10562513/
Does it concern people that F1 teams are still super reliant on old guard designers like Newey, Byrne, Fry, Permane with very few strong up and comers (I'd say Allison is somewhere in the middle of old and new guard -- he left but had to come back). What happens 10 years from now when the old crew is retired? Key was a flameout and Fallows initially just copied the RBR at AM but dropped off quickly after that...
You'd think with a new gen of designers more used to tech tools, they would have leapfrogged old ideas but I guess experience still counts?
Experience will always count for something, it is true in every other division of life. And I think it is unfair to call them 'super-reliant'. Let's not forget that Newey nor anyone else designs the cars themselves, there is a group of over a 1000 people workig on them.

We need to stop with this extreme view on things.

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they literally use the word irreplaceable but ok..

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/wach ... /10562279/

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Macklaren wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 9:26 pm
they literally use the word irreplaceable but ok..

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/wach ... /10562279/
But you are acting like Red Bull can't operate without him. The experience will always be valuable, hence why the leadership roles are all people with heaps of experience, and I believe he is geniunely the greatest engineer that has graced this sport, but to sit here and say the other thousand or so employees of an F1 team are "super-reliant" is a bit too extreme.

PW saying he is irreplaceable is a token of gratitude. Sure there will never be another Newey but when he is gone, he'll indeed be replaced by the next person fit for the role and Red Bull Racng won't cease to exist but ok...


To the mods, I know this is off topic but this thread dies in about a month or so

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scuderiabrandon wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 10:10 pm
Macklaren wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 9:26 pm
they literally use the word irreplaceable but ok..

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/wach ... /10562279/
But you are acting like Red Bull can't operate without him. The experience will always be valuable, hence why the leadership roles are all people with heaps of experience, and I believe he is geniunely the greatest engineer that has graced this sport, but to sit here and say the other thousand or so employees of an F1 team are "super-reliant" is a bit too extreme.

PW saying he is irreplaceable is a token of gratitude. Sure there will never be another Newey but when he is gone, he'll indeed be replaced by the next person fit for the role and Red Bull Racng won't cease to exist but ok...


To the mods, I know this is off topic but this thread dies in about a month or so
If you consider how desperate they were to keep him from Ferrari....I'd like to see the team operate without him.

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Looks like Fred has let go of Inaki Rueda.

Never thought I'd see the day...

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JPower wrote:
Sat Jan 06, 2024 7:48 pm
Looks like Fred has let go of Inaki Rueda.

Never thought I'd see the day...
Personally don’t think this will make a noticeable difference strategy wise; He was replaced as Head of Strategy by Ravin Jain at the beginning of 2023 and was based at Maranello instead… and the strategy was no better last year for the most part.

The issue of strategy is more deep rooted than just 1 individual I believe…

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