diffuser wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 3:42 am
xReVo wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 9:12 pm
diffuser wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 8:48 pm
They upgraded their wind tunnel before Rossi. They've spent alot of money upgrading their infrastructure. Think it's top 5.
Pat Fry left to Williams. His cars came close to winning at Ferrari and he did win with Mclaren. They should have hung to him. I do agree, they have anonymous working over there.
No, their infrastructure is ridiculous, have you seen the place where they design cars? It's really small, not to mention the simulator that remained in 2006. Pat Fry worked at McLaren during the Newey period, we saw all his shortcomings at Ferrari where he churned out mediocre cars in the face of crazy expenses. You never came close to a winning car, only in 2010 you were behind Redbull and McLaren, in 2012 a total collapse. Either you agree or you don't agree, Alpine's results prove me right and in fact he ended up in one of the worst teams in the championship
Mediocre? Along with Alonso they took Newey and Vettel to the brink a few times. You're not mediocre if you pushed that team to the limit.
But what a limit, the truth is that Ferrari spent too much compared to the results obtained on the track. There were 4 years of mediocre cars except 2010 where Pat Fry wasn't leading the development. In 2012 Ferrari was behind Redbull McLaren and Lotus in terms of performance, in 2013 at the end of the regulation he managed to make a decent car and then demonstrate all his shortcomings in the f14t, one of the worst Ferrari. After that Ferrari decided to fire him. I don't care about Alpine at the moment, but they didn't lose anything, in fact they gained by removing Otmar and Pat Fry. They had to keep the previous management with Budkowski, Abiteboul and Prost but now that's how it went for them.