Aston Martin AMR23

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Curious to see which works better. The slides that go all the way down directed towards the diffuser whereas some other teams like Ferrari are directing that flow towards the beam wing. Also, Ferrari have made their 'bath tub' a bit more shallower from last year so interesting that AM have gone with such extreme slides.

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Won’t that generate more sidepod lift than usual shape? I don’t see gills which could energize flow and reduce lift?

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collindsilva wrote:
18 Feb 2023, 17:44
What about AMR, is it possible to provide some basic analysis on their design..
It would not be an informative simulation, since AMR23 sidepod design is a cross between Ferrari and RB solutions which we all understand already. Scarbs' analysis is quite accurate in that regard.
And they call it a stall. A STALL!

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F1NAC wrote:
18 Feb 2023, 18:55
Won’t that generate more sidepod lift than usual shape? I don’t see gills which could energize flow and reduce lift?
If a Gill doesn't pass through a rad, it will energize a bit otherwise it will feed only low energy air in the boundary layer which would hurt more. Also any wing or Gill that energizes the flow will result in higher lift.

In this case the extreme drop will create higher lift than other side pods, not just at the curvature but also on top of the shoulder, where air is pulled in from the side. BUT at the intersection with the floor there is a huge trough. This would also result in a stronger high pressure area than other teams intersections.

I was just wondering why they might have done so given that alpine and Williams are doing the same thing but with a much less aggressive and less 'risky' ramp. And I think it comes down to how much they want to bend the flow laterally really sharply. Just using cfd eyes if you were to bend the flow with the depth of alpine or Williams water slides, the flow may spillover the shoulder since its coming down a ramp, and you're trying to bend a rather large mass flow.

In AMRs case they are getting the flow in a pocket where the side wall height is sufficient before attempting to push it inwards.

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PhillipM wrote:
18 Feb 2023, 22:57
Williams had an extreme concept last year look where that got them. It could be a gamble.
I would say the difference is that the '23 cars are based on learnings from '22. The '22 cars were gambles with no immediate reference to draw on.

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............!!!!

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Is this a photoshop editing/artifact , or are they hiding something in that bodywork area during shakedown?
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delsando53 wrote:
19 Feb 2023, 11:36
https://ibb.co/6PBLNhY

Is this a photoshop editing/artifact , or are they hiding something in that bodywork area during shakedown?
Pretty sure just a reflection

The video released from filming day shows that bodywork looking normal from similar angles

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The water side starts from the top of the radiator inlet downwashes almost 3/4 of sidepod and then rides into the top of the diffuser and suspension. The gradient is quite extreme, is there a possibility of the flow separating and not getting into the valley of the waterslide?

i thought of something to increase the flow from the bottom of the waterside , im sure its classed as moveble aero.
its a panel that opens up about 4mm from the radiator due to increase in air pressure and closes when stationary.

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what are your thoughts?
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Does that side waterslide has lopsided V shape? Like on a hydropower generation DAM

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A reminder, this is the car thread.
Championship position and team personnel... in the team thread, please. Posts have been deleted.
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Egresi Tamás wrote:
19 Feb 2023, 21:27
What's it supposed to be? Looks like normal floor detail to me

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Egresi Tamás wrote:
19 Feb 2023, 21:27
Is that something? I can't see it ver clearly