At the current width ratio between front & rear tyres, the front tyres are overpowerful in comparison with the rears (this has been ‘a thing’ since the move to grooved slicks back in the nineties).
disproportionately increasing the duration of regeneration at 350 kW ....
Indeed!Tommy Cookers wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2024 3:50 pmhandily this would disproportionately increase the duration available for regeneration at 350 kW ....
One path being explored was for only the rear wing to be moveable, as it could then work easily in conjunction with DRS and would be the least complicated solution.
According to sources, when the rear wing was in its most low-drag configuration and the engine was at full power, the car was almost undriveable – with multiple examples of drivers spinning on straights under acceleration or being unable to take the smallest of curves without the rear stepping out.
So why would they be spinning on the straight?And FIA sources have revealed that the conclusion has been reached that the moveable aero plan will not work with only the rear wing changing configuration.
Instead, the FIA has decided that the 2026 aero plan will need to incorporate both the front and rear wing moving in conjunction with each other if the cars are going to deliver the performance characteristics hoped for.
By ensuring that the two wings work together, it should help reduce the aero balance offset that has been causing trouble in the simulator.
Wow, that's unexpected. We've had 4 generations of cars with DRS since 2011 and the latest generation is very different from those before, none of them shown too much inherent instability with DRS open on straights and fast corners. I think some important info wasn't given to the media. My first guess is either the low drag configuration is massively lower drag and downforce level than current DRS by design (and actual DRS would be even lower drag obviously) or somehow it triggers a massive CoP shift on the floor when switching to low drag mode.FW17 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2024 10:18 amActive rear wing does not work as there is too much of an imbalance, resulting in lap times comparable to F2
They are looking at front wing also to be active, but by doing that wont it change the entire flow to the floor? Something that could be its own can of worms
Its confusing, the article claims a "shift in aero balance that was estimated to be three times as much as is currently experienced when DRS is open.", but i'd still have assumed the floor to make enough downforce to keep the rears planted on a straight.Vanja #66 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2024 10:59 am
Wow, that's unexpected. We've had 4 generations of cars with DRS since 2011 and the latest generation is very different from those before, none of them shown too much inherent instability with DRS open on straights and fast corners. I think some important info wasn't given to the media. My first guess is either the low drag configuration is massively lower drag and downforce level than current DRS by design (and actual DRS would be even lower drag obviously) or somehow it triggers a massive CoP shift on the floor when switching to low drag mode.
No, total downforce coefficients will be about 40% lower than right now so suspension can be slightly softer. There's not a lot of details on floor rules, but we know so far there will be less vanes (maybe only the outboard one on each side) so perhaps the rules are being made to yield a very, very small benefit with extra low ride height, while going a bit higher and softer on suspension you gain more time in slower corners. Mechanical grip will only be slightly reduced with slightly narrower tyres.
That kind of CoP shift is quite big. We know floors will have a lot smaller downforce yield than right now, maybe rear wing will be much more important than today so taking that away causes such a big shift...CaribouBread wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2024 11:09 amIts confusing, the article claims a "shift in aero balance that was estimated to be three times as much as is currently experienced when DRS is open.", but i'd still have assumed the floor to make enough downforce to keep the rears planted on a straight.