How to fix F1?

[AR3-GP]

I just watched a MotoGP race at COTA. Their pace is 2.02 at COTA. F1 pace is 1.36-1.40. MotoGP was by far the better race here. F1 needs to remove alot of downforce and go for smaller, lighter cars asap. I don't see what value being 20 seconds faster than the bikes added.

[AR3-GP]

Toyota TS040

[Just_a_fan]

I just watched a MotoGP race at COTA. Their pace is 2.02 at COTA. F1 pace is 1.36-1.40. MotoGP was by far the better race here. F1 needs to remove alot of downforce and go for smaller, lighter cars asap. I don't see what value being 20 seconds faster than the bikes added.

Oh, you want F3 in that case. Nearly 20 seconds slower around Melbourne than the F1 cars so hits your lap time requirements. Not much downforce, lighter, lower power, close racing. Well, the top 4 were close but they were 13s clear of 5th place but plenty of closer stuff elsewhere. And the results of the Sprint races were very different to the Feature race. So that's nice too.

[V12-POWER]

Perhaps in Europe or UK. But globally, F1 is much more accessible now and countless F1 videos on Youtube.
And this is what will make sponsors happy.

this is not entirely liberty medias achievement, rather a side effect of everything being present in social media and streaming apps

If predictability kills F1, then other formula series with less predictability should be equally or more popular since they have same access to social media and streaming apps.

other series spend 10% of what liberty does in advertising. F1 came to this era already being the “pinnacle” of Motorsport, etc…

and then what other formula series are there? Indycar? doesn’t exist outside the US, F2, F3 will never overtake F1 for obvious reasons. Japan super formula I have never ever seen a video on YouTube as recommended unless willingly looking for it.

and formula E is niche and most people couldn’t careless about oversized electrics toys, so “other series should be more popular by now” is not entirely true

How to fix F1?

-Engines on the verge of mechanical limits, limit one engine per weekend. V8,V10,I4 whatever. No ERS and unnecessary complexity, “carbon neutrality” and “planet saving” won’t be done by a few race cars going in circles once in a while anyways, let DHL handle that “net zero co2” headline

Engines run on one map only for the race, no fuel saving, no sandbagging, no nothing. Max power all the time with a power of target 900-950hp

-Weight reduction, return to the minimum 540kg dry weight

-Wheelbase, around 1 meter shorter

-DRS, either allow it everywhere on track or remove it completely, see who is willing to give it all.

-Different tyre philosophy, we see more flatout action in kart races with predictable tire degradation. I know for example how much time the tires lose after 5, 15, 30 laps.

Seeing these guys today coast and lift 30-40 meters early is sacrilege.

-Limited computing power for strategy and race predictions during the weekend, common and sealed equipment for all teams

-Grid girls, and all the aura of glamour that once surrounded F1 must come back

Optional:

Remove the halo
Raise pit lane minimum speed
Refueling
13 teams


After all, this is and was a risky sport for those who were truly passionate about it. Excessive safety is killing the aspect of F1 that made it F1. Do not have unrealistic expectations.

Karting is still karting because the basic aspect hasn’t changed although the CIK FIA is doing a mediocre job at best, but still, the top class is direct drive engines with crazy minimum weight and a decent balance between tire saving and flatout racing.

What is F1 nowadays?

[AR3-GP]

I just watched a MotoGP race at COTA. Their pace is 2.02 at COTA. F1 pace is 1.36-1.40. MotoGP was by far the better race here. F1 needs to remove alot of downforce and go for smaller, lighter cars asap. I don't see what value being 20 seconds faster than the bikes added.

Oh, you want F3 in that case. Nearly 20 seconds slower around Melbourne than the F1 cars so hits your lap time requirements. Not much downforce, lighter, lower power, close racing. Well, the top 4 were close but they were 13s clear of 5th place but plenty of closer stuff elsewhere. And the results of the Sprint races were very different to the Feature race. So that's nice too.

F1 drivers are better than F3 drivers.

[Just_a_fan]

I just watched a MotoGP race at COTA. Their pace is 2.02 at COTA. F1 pace is 1.36-1.40. MotoGP was by far the better race here. F1 needs to remove alot of downforce and go for smaller, lighter cars asap. I don't see what value being 20 seconds faster than the bikes added.

Oh, you want F3 in that case. Nearly 20 seconds slower around Melbourne than the F1 cars so hits your lap time requirements. Not much downforce, lighter, lower power, close racing. Well, the top 4 were close but they were 13s clear of 5th place but plenty of closer stuff elsewhere. And the results of the Sprint races were very different to the Feature race. So that's nice too.

F1 drivers are better than F3 drivers.

Yes, but you wanted smaller, lighter, slower cars. Let's use F3 cars in F1. Problem solved, surely?

[AR3-GP]

Oh, you want F3 in that case. Nearly 20 seconds slower around Melbourne than the F1 cars so hits your lap time requirements. Not much downforce, lighter, lower power, close racing. Well, the top 4 were close but they were 13s clear of 5th place but plenty of closer stuff elsewhere. And the results of the Sprint races were very different to the Feature race. So that's nice too.

F1 drivers are better than F3 drivers.

Yes, but you wanted smaller, lighter, slower cars. Let's use F3 cars in F1. Problem solved, surely?

F3 was your suggestion.

[Just_a_fan]

F1 drivers are better than F3 drivers.

Yes, but you wanted smaller, lighter, slower cars. Let's use F3 cars in F1. Problem solved, surely?

F3 was your suggestion.

F3 cars meet your requirements. F1 drivers in F3 cars meet your "make cars nearer to MotoGP lap times by reducing downforce and size" requirement. That's all I'm suggesting.

[Just_a_fan]

this is not entirely liberty medias achievement, rather a side effect of everything being present in social media and streaming apps

If predictability kills F1, then other formula series with less predictability should be equally or more popular since they have same access to social media and streaming apps.

other series spend 10% of what liberty does in advertising. F1 came to this era already being the “pinnacle” of Motorsport, etc…

[...]

What is F1 nowadays?

TL:DR summary: take F1 back to the 1980s. Make it dangerous, misogynistic, etc.. because killing a few drivers and having women in almost no clothes is "better than today".

[browney]

A world championship with F2 downforce ,with F1 engines and F1 level drivers sounds pretty appealing to me. Although I'd go for F3 weight.

[CHT]

I just watched a MotoGP race at COTA. Their pace is 2.02 at COTA. F1 pace is 1.36-1.40. MotoGP was by far the better race here. F1 needs to remove alot of downforce and go for smaller, lighter cars asap. I don't see what value being 20 seconds faster than the bikes added.

In MotoGP, media are focusing more on riders than the bike or technology. Perhaps riders are more visible on track.
While in F1, media do pay more attention on car design, technology and engineering because car plays are very pivotal role in championship.

If F1 cars are made to look more identical to promote racing, it may possibly alienate some fans due to the lack of innovation.

[TeamKoolGreen]

Oh, you want F3 in that case. Nearly 20 seconds slower around Melbourne than the F1 cars so hits your lap time requirements. Not much downforce, lighter, lower power, close racing. Well, the top 4 were close but they were 13s clear of 5th place but plenty of closer stuff elsewhere. And the results of the Sprint races were very different to the Feature race. So that's nice too.

F1 drivers are better than F3 drivers.

Yes, but you wanted smaller, lighter, slower cars. Let's use F3 cars in F1. Problem solved, surely?

Make them a little longer with a higher horsepower engine and yeah. Problem solved

[chrisc90]

Cloud seeding and chemtrails. So artificial rain hits a random time into qualifying or the race

[dren]

If predictability kills F1, then other formula series with less predictability should be equally or more popular since they have same access to social media and streaming apps.

other series spend 10% of what liberty does in advertising. F1 came to this era already being the “pinnacle” of Motorsport, etc…

[...]

What is F1 nowadays?

TL:DR summary: take F1 back to the 1980s. Make it dangerous, misogynistic, etc.. because killing a few drivers and having women in almost no clothes is "better than today".

I want sex for breakfast.

[AR3-GP]