Toyota will Gascoyne master the turnaround ?

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Toyota will Gascoyne master the turnaround ?

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Toyotas season is already a writeoff,and compared to their competitors progress is slow .They just seem to be unable to maximise their potential at the weekends (poor simulations?setup maps not correlating to real world?).The arrival of Gascoyne was much applauded but when you hear Olivier Panis quoting that Mr Gascoyne assumed that they were a bit up on tyre pressures and lost performance enough to again disappoint one has to ask what they are doing when they go testing...Barcelona is not a place with big secrets for the warriors,and they even have the third car to obtain fresh data ...and then they don´t know what tyre pressure will do?
There you go...if williams has too small brakeducts.....that is permissible..
I would not ever say this science is easy,far from it,but if you compare to the best you just have to deliver .every other weekend.I´m sure the Toyota board will not look too long at Gascoynes failure to effect a turnaround.

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I'm sure they'll give him 2 or 3 years to do a real turnaround for the team. This year's car was all but done when Gascoyne arrived at Toyota. That means it'll probably be the 2005 car that will really show what he can do.

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Gascoyne sort of laughed at Toyotas approach to getting competitive when he arrived and talked about significant improvements to the CG height of the car and aero improvements...and all involved talked about the new spirit...but I cannot see anyone having 3 Years in such a company,when budget is not really an issue....look Mclaren can build a new car in 6 months ... this will be the sort of time before Gascoyne will have to deliver....and Saubers upturn in Form now that their Windtunnel programme is online will put the pressure even more on...and don´t forget the impact when BAR wins firsttime...
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In some ways it is a blessing for other teams that they set-up shop all the way in Cologne. The largest pool of experienced f1 engineers resides in England. Imagine if Toyota was based in England; They would have been able to lure many more specialists from other teams.

Gascoyne will have an impact for sure, but he will need some experienced engineers around him as well....do not know if he has many of those at the moment......

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hm,I doubt if a lack of engineers is the big problem at toyota.Holding a degree does not necessarily translate in being a good racer.IMO they look too much in degrees and too less in inspiration and determination.

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Anonymous wrote:In some ways it is a blessing for other teams that they set-up shop all the way in Cologne. The largest pool of experienced f1 engineers resides in England. Imagine if Toyota was based in England; They would have been able to lure many more specialists from other teams.

Gascoyne will have an impact for sure, but he will need some experienced engineers around him as well....do not know if he has many of those at the moment......
As if I knew beforehand what Gascoyne was going to say in an AtlasF1 interview today (I posted the above quoted message from work):

Gascoyne (AtlasF1): "But I think the one problem for me here, compared to Renault, is that we lack the senior experienced staff that I can delegate responsibilities to, knowing they've got the experience to run it. At the moment I don't really have enough of that backup and the right people are difficult to find. So it means I have to be in five places at once and you can't be, so it means things take longer. And that's the frustration at the moment. I mean, individually, in all areas, I can fix Toyota in three months. But because I can't be in five areas at once, it takes 15 months. It's as simple as that."

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hm...what is delegating?If my boys are as good as me itis not delegating it´s more like orchestrating.If my boys are capable but inexperienced i need to delegate the tasks.
very interesting that he has no faith in the current staff ,very good for motivation,but perhaps he thinks they all speak german only...turnaround in three months.....

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There engine is good.But i heard that their have aero problems with the car when cornering.Their aerodynamics is only done on straight line research,so the air flow when cornering is disrupted.

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Rumours of the TF104 for end July might be the start of the unvailing of Mr Gascoyne. I'm really hoping. Toyota should be able to challenge the top manufacturers....

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they are supposed to have one of themost advanced windtunels and did not t esttheir car inyaw????you´re kidding..aero is needed in corners,or so Ithought...you just need to read racecar engineering to know that much...

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The problem is that they need more (or more experienced, I forgot) aerodynamicists. Their wind tunnel is very complex so it is hard for them to extract the most out of it, as well.
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