2011 Testing - Barcelona 18th - 21st Feb

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i tempi di Alonso. Gli altri li potete trovare qui http://spontoncristiano.wordpress.com/2 ... 12-00-p-m/

Lapchart: F. Alonso
Lap Time Difference
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7 1:25.908 -34.092
8 1:25.438 -0.47
9 1:25.652 +0.214
10 1:25.915 +0.263
11 1:26.331 +0.416
12 ----
13 1:26.331
14 1:25.446 -0.885
15 1:25.299 -0.147
16 1:25.471 +0.172
17 1:28.209 +2.738
18 1:25.857 -2.352
19 ----
21 1:25.455
22 1:25.247 -0.208
23 1:34.104 +8.857
24 1:26.367 -7.737
25 ----
26 1:26.367
27 1:28.147 +1.78
28 1:28.166 +0.019
29 1:27.737 -0.429
30 1:27.982 +0.245
31 1:27.892 -0.09
32 1:29.765 +1.873
33 ----
34 1:29.765
35 1:27.273 -2.492
36 1:27.574 +0.301
37 1:27.628 +0.054
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39 1:27.628
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41 1:27.628
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43 1:27.628
44 ----
45 1:24.449
46 1:25.223 +0.774
47 1:25.896 +0.673
48 1:26.270 +0.374
49 1:28.262 +1.992
50 1:27.624 -0.638
51 1:27.043 -0.581
52 1:27.436 +0.393
53 1:27.675 +0.239
54 1:27.969 +0.294
55 1:28.429 +0.46
56 1:28.866 +0.437
57 ----
58 1:28.866
59 1:24.593 -4.273
60 1:25.377 +0.784
61 1:26.087 +0.71
62 1:28.346 +2.259
63 1:27.058 -1.288
64 1:26.188 -0.87
65 1:26.221 +0.033
66 1:26.063 -0.158
67 1:26.362 +0.299
68 1:26.242 -0.12
69 1:26.145 -0.097
70 1:26.212 +0.067
71 1:26.343 +0.131
72 1:26.528 +0.185
73 1:26.666 +0.138
74 1:28.660 +1.994
75 1:27.164 -1.496
76 ----
77 1:27.164
78 1:23.978 -3.186
79 1:24.852 +0.874
80 1:25.724 +0.872
81 1:26.563 +0.839
82 1:27.668 +1.105
83 1:27.657 -0.011
84 1:27.816 +0.159
85 1:28.415 +0.599
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87 1:28.415
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Insert here the obligatory "it-is-too-soon-to-know" and "we-do-not-know-what-fuel-load-and-tires-they-were-running."

Red Bull is slowly revealing its true speed and it has to be worrying for Ferrari and McLaren, and fans who want to see lots of close racing this year. Ferrari looks just competitive (good, but not great), but at least is showing reliability -- and today's little problems could actually be helpful in the long run.

Mclaren meanwhile . . .??? Williams -- can they sustain their performance once the season begins? I'd guess not.
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It's still too early to know, we don't know if Vettel was running kers or the ARW, likewise for Mercedes which is still sorting out it's package, times were embarrassing for the teams compared to last year. That is all
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Vettel ran a quali simulation that's for sure. Going by this we know the Ferrari and the Torro Rosso are up there. In fact, I can surely say that the Torro Rosso is a front runner this year. Top 5.. write it down..

I put Torro Rosso up for a top three finish today.
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Yes, he would've been doing a quali style hotlap. BUT, we still don't know what kind of fuel figures he's running
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Barrichello: "If Vettel did his time (1.23,315min) with 30Kg of fuel, then I have to say: We could do the same."

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Something tells me that: a) it wasn't a glory run on only 30KG of fuel b) the team who hasn't won a race in 7 years, didn't even get a podium last year, and had to fight tooth and nail with Force India (who, by the way, only scored their first points the year before) to get 6th in the constructors by 1 point wouldn't have caught up with the reigning constructors champs so soon.

But then again Honda ended 2008 bottom of the heap. So what do I know.
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All the analysis of the long runs I have read point to RB being fastest followed by Ferrari and Renault whilst the Merc and Macca are off pace. Surely the latter two teams won't mind a certain race that's due to take place early next month to be cancelled at this stage...

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From a friend who is at Montmelo:
- McLaren locked wheel each time at turn 10. Appart that, it don't move at all.
- Williams and Sauber pretty quick
- Red Bull and Ferrari like on a railtrack

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Lurk wrote:From a friend who is at Montmelo:
- McLaren locked wheel each time at turn 10. Appart that, it don't move at all.
- Williams and Sauber pretty quick
- Red Bull and Ferrari like on a railtrack
Any news on other teams or were those the only teams your friend mentioned.

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raymondu999 wrote:Something tells me that: a) it wasn't a glory run on only 30KG of fuel b) the team who hasn't won a race in 7 years, didn't even get a podium last year, and had to fight tooth and nail with Force India (who, by the way, only scored their first points the year before) to get 6th in the constructors by 1 point wouldn't have caught up with the reigning constructors champs so soon.

But then again Honda ended 2008 bottom of the heap. So what do I know.
"ONLY" 30 kg? That's a decent amount! 30kg is about 11 gallons of gas. Fuel usage is around 2.27 kg a lap* so that's 13 (call it 11 for safety) laps of fuel!


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Webbers fastest lap was set on the first flying lap of a 20 lap run, which is a third of a race distance. He was 1.8s off the pace although Vettel was posting the fastest times on the two previous dates. So the Red Bull clearly is capable of going 2 or three seconds faster. This looks like Webber was driving with a full or almost full fuel load. Red Bull look good to me.
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Driver distance totals:

Sebastian Vettel 2,033.499
Mark Webber 2,052.251
Lewis Hamilton 1,181.562
Jenson Button 1,645.822
Fernando Alonso 2,691.283
Felipe Massa 1,853.841
Michael Schumacher 1,920.303
Nico Rosberg 1,846.391
Robert Kubica 801.000
Nick Heidfeld 697.348
Vitaly Petrov 1,462.326
Rubens Barrichello 2,193.791
Pastor Maldanado 1,025.778
Adrian Sutil 1,390.623
Paul Di Resta 1,771.889
Kamui Kobayashi 1,970.065
Sergio Perez 1,784.255
Sebastian Buemi 1,426.796
Jaime Alguersuari 1,633.527
Jarno Trulli 791.862
Heikki Kovalainen 1,041.947
Narain Karthikeyan 1,441.880
Vitantonio Liuzzi 325.850
Timo Glock 1,789.877
Jerome D'Ambrosio 1,395.547
Garry Paffett 364.455
Bruno Senna 301.104
Nico Hulkenberg 284.355
Daniel Ricciardo 332.778
Ricardo Teixeira 121.030
Giorgio Mondini 181.545

Team Distance Totals:

Red Bull-Renault 4,085.750
McLaren-Mercedes 3,191.839
Scuderia Ferrari 4,545.124
Mercedes GP 3,766.694
Lotus Renault GP 3,261.778
Williams-Cowsorth 3,219.569
Force India-Mercedes 3,446.867
Sauber-Ferarri 3,754.320
STR-Ferarri 3,393.101
Team Lotus-Renault 2,092.107
Hispania-Cosworth 1,949.275
Marussia Virgin-Cosworth 3,185.424

Engine Distance Totals:

Engine Total Distance
Renault RS27-2011 9,439.635
Mercedes FO108Y 10,405.400
Ferarri 065 11,692.545
Cosworth CA2011 8,354.268


Totals to the end of play 20th Febuary.

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has anyone else apart from Mercedes done a true Racesimulation? As I understand all others did some longruns interrupted by visits to the pits but not really a string of three longruns.
the Mercedes racesims were quite suspicious too with very little time spread over the distance.....so to me all this looks not real to me.with telemetry and logging its too easy to simulate right anything you do what you need to do but not show your true color.In the back of the pits you can string together what you need to know.
Maybe,maybe some find importance in doing quick laps to calm down things in the media ,some may just want to play the muscles a bit.

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Alonso has 500 km more in his car than the second guy on that list... o.O
That Ferrari is very well built!
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