HALO Approved for 2018

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HALO Approved for 2018

Post by marmer » Thu Jul 20, 2017 6:20 am

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/40663158

talk about a rushed idea. i thought they would have just delayed it a year but i suppose if it saves someone next year then it has come at the right time

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Re: HALO Aprroved for 2018

Post by Shrieker » Thu Jul 20, 2017 6:45 am

We got used to those horrendous noses. We’ll get used to this. And i bet at least some teams will find a way to make it blend in with the car/livery and look good ;) For example, this doesn't look bad me thinks.

The bad thing tho is, it will maybe prevent a Bianchi, but most likely won’t prevent a Massa. And then what...

Also: This Halo device isn't a part of the 'triangle' when the car rolls. I don't think they're designing the car around it, the same way it's designed around the roll hoop and the (top side of the) tub. What happens when the car rolls ? IMHO it's not a far fetched scenario that the Halo might get pushed into the cockpit towards the driver's head/chest. That would not be good, and can not be ruled out convincingly.
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Re: HALO Aprroved for 2018

Post by bauc » Thu Jul 20, 2017 7:53 am

I'm sick of the news, but if it helps (I doubt it) to save someone's life I'm in.
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Re: HALO Approved for 2018

Post by CriXus » Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:19 am

](*,) ](*,) ](*,) No, no, no!!! It should be either fighter jet canopy or nothing!
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Re: HALO Approved for 2018

Post by TwanV » Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:26 am

In the words of youknow.. Sad!

But really, the worst idea I have ever heard and they know it:
A statement said the group debated "a number of sporting measures aimed at improving the show". It did not reveal what they were but said "specific studies will be carried out to assess" them.
or freely translated:
We already know this idea is aweful and has no support, but some guy has made it his personal mission, sorry about that. We'll make it up to you by thinking up something really cool. Really, it's going to be fantastic and huge.
or worse:
We honourable delegates of the FIA deem your opinion, world, null and void. The institution has spoken. To offset any resistance, we have thrown a bone.
:cry: :cry: :cry:
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Re: HALO Approved for 2018

Post by ackzsel » Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:33 am

I'm divided. I'm all for safety but this will take some time for me to get used to. Also, I'm a bit scared about evacuating a turned over car.

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Re: HALO Approved for 2018

Post by Facts Only » Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:38 am

Rabble rabble rabble! They should go back to leather caps and no roll hoops and drive like gentlemen. Just like in the past when everything was better than it is now!
I (a person who will nver drive an F1 car) don want these safety features! But i do reserve the right to make ranting and indignent comments about how "something should be done" when somebody does get injured.

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Re: HALO Aprroved for 2018

Post by adrianjordan » Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:46 am

Shrieker wrote:
Thu Jul 20, 2017 6:45 am
We got used to those horrendous noses. We’ll get used to this. And i bet at least some teams will find a way to make it blend in with the car/livery and look good ;) For example, this doesn't look bad me thinks.

The bad thing tho is, it will maybe prevent a Bianchi, but most likely won’t prevent a Massa. And then what...

Also: This Halo device isn't a part of the 'triangle' when the car rolls. I don't think they're designing the car around it, the same way it's designed around the roll hoop and the (top side of the) tub. What happens when the car rolls ? IMHO it's not a far fetched scenario that the Halo might get pushed into the cockpit towards the driver's head/chest. That would not be good, and can not be ruled out convincingly.
Halo would not of saved Bianchi. The deceleration would still have been pretty much the same as with the roll hoop.
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Re: HALO Approved for 2018

Post by SiLo » Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:56 am

This still feels like a knee-jerk reaction to Bianchi's death. The sport is dangerous, the drivers know that and I'm pretty sure they accept it every time they get in the car otherwise they would be sitting at home watching on TV like the rest of us.

9 out of 10 teams said no to it, and they pushed it through anyway? Good work FIA =D>
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Re: HALO Approved for 2018

Post by CriXus » Thu Jul 20, 2017 9:05 am

What would happen if all teams say they won't use it. What would the FIA do? They wouldn't penalize all teams.
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Re: HALO Approved for 2018

Post by Sieper » Thu Jul 20, 2017 9:32 am

So now that it is not open formula racing anymore how should we call it H1? just 1? but maybe Force One will have claimed that name.

I think it is a dreadful solution. It looks so incredibly ugly and out of place and prevents us from seeing the drivers. I am really saddened to read it has been pushed through now. This will mean it will stay forever, no way back. Just like Brexit :-(.

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Re: HALO Approved for 2018

Post by George-Jung » Thu Jul 20, 2017 9:47 am

It does not even look save and it impairs vision?

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Re: HALO Approved for 2018

Post by Gerhardsa » Thu Jul 20, 2017 9:52 am

I am very interested in seeing what the teams and drivers reaction will be to this news.
I think its a stupid idea. it just makes getting out of the car more difficult and would not help in a Bianchi or Massa situation, not in the slightest.

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Re: HALO Approved for 2018

Post by bauc » Thu Jul 20, 2017 9:53 am

Sieper wrote:
Thu Jul 20, 2017 9:32 am
So now that it is not open formula racing anymore how should we call it H1? just 1? but maybe Force One will have claimed that name.

I think it is a dreadful solution. It looks so incredibly ugly and out of place and prevents us from seeing the drivers. I am really saddened to read it has been pushed through now. This will mean it will stay forever, no way back. Just like Brexit :-(.
Untill I see it on the cars next year I would not consider this as granted, rules have been changed overnight before in F1
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Re: HALO Approved for 2018

Post by Facts Only » Thu Jul 20, 2017 10:12 am

Oh dear seems that a tongue in cheek post has hit a nerve with the armchair racing fans. I forgot that a bit of humour is unacceptable.
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