but others(fia merc aliance) also must learn to fairplay. Looking as a mistake it, yea if Redbull would champion next year it would be a shame, or 2022 as Brown gp did.Jambier wrote: ↑Fri Oct 02, 2020 11:19 amThis is sad.
As 10 years ago, Honda was poor and they left when finally they started to be at the good level.
10 years after, same mistakes with engine.
I don't get it... Honda should understand and learn that F1 is not something you win in 3 years time, it takes commitment and long term vision.
No SAAB, Pontiac, Holden, Triumph, Woseley, Morris, Leyland, Austin and Rover are dead. Honda is still racing in affordable categories, so Honda still exists, after all Soichiro Honda himself authorised withdrawal of Honda from F1 in 1968 and withdrawal of Honda from MotoGP in 1969.
Too little benefits in F1 beyond this point basically.JordanMugen wrote: ↑Fri Oct 02, 2020 11:53 am
Oh well, these things happen. With a push towards electrification and low emissions, poor Honda sales in Europe (with F1 remaining largely Euro-centric), and electric products needing huge R&D investment, the decision is entirely logical.
So, if other manufactures thinks the same.... only Mercedes in the F1.rogazilla wrote: ↑Fri Oct 02, 2020 3:13 pmPosted in other thread too. Honda uses F1 to train engineers first, PR/Marketing second (at least that's their stance). A lot of people are saying frozen state should convince them to stay, basically does not understand the reason why Honda is in the game.
2022 does nothing to convince Honda in my opinion, being frozen from development, chance of innovation becomes miniscule and you can play with the reliability route but that's not really the type of creative situation for their engineers. From marketing point of view, if they don't win next season or match PU performance to Merc, once frozen, you will continue to play second fiddle. No benefit in innovation and no benefit in PR and very expensive.
Don't do it! I changed my Honda road car to Renault, and the lack of thoughtful Honda touches is really annoying. (e.g., Renault doesn't think there should be a tab to secure rear seatbelts out of the way when folding down rear seats... well, why not?)