2018 in-season testing thread

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Re: 2018 pre-season testing thread

Post by digitalrurouni » Tue Jul 31, 2018 3:40 pm

So seems like the wings are just wider and the end plates look a little less developed? Is that it?

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Re: 2018 pre-season testing thread

Post by Sieper » Tue Jul 31, 2018 3:41 pm

the additional "on top" layers seem to have been banned".

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Re: 2018 pre-season testing thread

Post by Morteza » Tue Jul 31, 2018 3:48 pm

It's raining now :D Didn't see that coming

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Re: 2018 pre-season testing thread

Post by digitalrurouni » Tue Jul 31, 2018 3:51 pm

Still too many elements on the wings if you ask me. We need a drastic reduction. What I am mainly concerned about is if this will help the cars follow each other better or not!!

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Re: 2018 pre-season testing thread

Post by senja » Tue Jul 31, 2018 4:16 pm

That Red Bull wing is not 2019 wing.

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Re: 2018 pre-season testing thread

Post by Morteza » Tue Jul 31, 2018 4:32 pm

senja wrote:
Tue Jul 31, 2018 4:16 pm
That Red Bull wing is not 2019 wing.
It's a simplified 2018 wing as Scarbs stated.
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Re: 2018 pre-season testing thread

Post by MtthsMlw » Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:20 pm

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Re: 2018 pre-season testing thread

Post by diffuser » Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:55 pm

ismail1991 wrote:
Tue Jul 31, 2018 9:23 am
Will wider wings without cascade sand simpler endplates in 2019 be able to generate equal downforce with the current wings?
The cascades and endplates don't generally generate downforce on the front wing (the wing converature and endplates do help in maintaining airflow in curves and therefore downforce). They're controlling airflow around the front wheels and guiding air to the diffuser in the rear. With the front wing changes, banning blown front wheel hubs and restricted brake ducts; they're basically banning the manipulation of air flow in the area outside of the front wheels and confining them to the space between the front wheels.

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Re: 2018 pre-season testing thread

Post by mkay » Tue Jul 31, 2018 7:24 pm

diffuser wrote:
Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:55 pm
ismail1991 wrote:
Tue Jul 31, 2018 9:23 am
Will wider wings without cascade sand simpler endplates in 2019 be able to generate equal downforce with the current wings?
The cascades and endplates don't generally generate downforce on the front wing (the wing converature and endplates do help in maintaining airflow in curves and therefore downforce). They're controlling airflow around the front wheels and guiding air to the diffuser in the rear. With the front wing changes, banning blown front wheel hubs and restricted brake ducts; they're basically banning the manipulation of air flow in the area outside of the front wheels and confining them to the space between the front wheels.
Will this in theory work well with Mercedes' current design (less reliant on sealing the diffuser like Ferrari/RBR)?

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Re: 2018 pre-season testing thread

Post by diffuser » Tue Jul 31, 2018 7:35 pm

In my opinion Merc, Ferarri and RBR are all using similar designs. Merc's isn't quite as integrated because of doing it mid season. Likely a large redesign coming in the off season there. Along with barge board/mid wing increase length rules coming into effect.

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Re: 2018 pre-season testing thread

Post by TAG » Tue Jul 31, 2018 8:37 pm

Phil wrote:
Wed May 16, 2018 12:06 pm
Take a look:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DY4pgUsXcAAHI17.jpg

Monaco is mechanical grip all the way.
Thanks for this Phil, it actually hit my square in the face and explains why Merc have a much easier time getting the soft compound to work... it has a high working temp range like the Medium.
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Re: 2018 pre-season testing thread

Post by mantikos » Tue Jul 31, 2018 8:47 pm

GPR-A wrote:
Tue Jul 31, 2018 3:10 pm
Could they not have restricted the front wing to have only 3 elements? There are still way too many elements on that wing.
Why? Do you want to make it a stock series? Why take away all the fun?

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Re: 2018 pre-season testing thread

Post by Zynerji » Tue Jul 31, 2018 10:46 pm

mantikos wrote:
Tue Jul 31, 2018 8:47 pm
GPR-A wrote:
Tue Jul 31, 2018 3:10 pm
Could they not have restricted the front wing to have only 3 elements? There are still way too many elements on that wing.
Why? Do you want to make it a stock series? Why take away all the fun?
Agreed, 100%

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Re: 2018 pre-season testing thread

Post by Morteza » Wed Aug 01, 2018 8:13 am

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Re: 2018 pre-season testing thread

Post by spamior00 » Wed Aug 01, 2018 9:29 am

Hi, I'm new on this forum. I don't know is that thread was questioned on this forum, but is it possibile to exceed fuel flow limits in test? If yes, that Renault and Honda could set engine power on Mercedes and Ferarri level and even more to see what capable the chasis is. They could make it with Mclaren as well last year? However Hungary has to short straights to show diffrence.