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Tim.Wright wrote:
Thu Feb 25, 2021 8:33 am
Just_a_fan wrote:
Thu Feb 25, 2021 12:25 am
In fairness, Murray hasn't said it will give 3g cornering - you came up with that figure. He has just stated mass, power and a maximum downforce figure.
Don't people do physics in this forum anymore?
Only in memes. :lol:
Acceleration = µ(9.81xMass + Downforce)/Mass/9.81

If it's not cornering well over 2G, we know the declared value in red is fantasy. If you plug in the claimed 1500 kgf of downforce, you get 3G.
As you say, we'll have to wait and see.
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Just_a_fan wrote:
Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:15 pm
Andres125sx wrote:
Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:57 pm
Just the weight will make a good difference with any other hypercar, add to that the active aero maximizing DF or reducing drag at will and I´m eager to see the result in the laptimes :D

edit: not first car with active aero, but the different approach with a fan instead of moving flaps will be interesting to be compared
On the track car, the fan is set to just give maximum downforce at all times. No drag reduction setting. Once the car gets to 50mph, the fan is switched on and goes flat out.
A bit dissapointing. I´d say that means the effect is not dramatic at all if they didn´t configure the fan to take advantage of the drag reduction in the straights. I was assuming they´d use some sort of DRS button to reduce drag at will

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Andres125sx wrote:
Sat Feb 27, 2021 12:37 pm
Just_a_fan wrote:
Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:15 pm
Andres125sx wrote:
Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:57 pm
Just the weight will make a good difference with any other hypercar, add to that the active aero maximizing DF or reducing drag at will and I´m eager to see the result in the laptimes :D

edit: not first car with active aero, but the different approach with a fan instead of moving flaps will be interesting to be compared
On the track car, the fan is set to just give maximum downforce at all times. No drag reduction setting. Once the car gets to 50mph, the fan is switched on and goes flat out.
A bit dissapointing. I´d say that means the effect is not dramatic at all if they didn´t configure the fan to take advantage of the drag reduction in the straights. I was assuming they´d use some sort of DRS button to reduce drag at will
It's a track day fun car, not a racing car. I could see someone using drag reduction and getting caught out at the end of a straight. Better, for the rich boys that will buy it, to make it foolproof in operation.
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Peak downforce is 3300 pounds, with GMA reckoning that the car is generating more than its own weight—and therefore theoretically capable of traveling upside down—at 175 mph. "In a 150-mph corner, the T.50S will pull around 2.5 g's of lateral acceleration, and 3.5 g under braking," Murray promises.

Both variants of this car are just amazing. I think its something that really appeals to a true petrol head.

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With those amount of G’s, it will be impossible to get anywhere near the cars performance on public roads. Even an emergency brake is dangerous with oncoming traffic (if it doesn’t give you a whiplash before the BMW behind you rear ends you)

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The road car won't get near that level of performance, just the track car.
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ironben88 wrote:
Sat Feb 27, 2021 5:35 pm
Peak downforce is 3300 pounds, with GMA reckoning that the car is generating more than its own weight—and therefore theoretically capable of traveling upside down—at 175 mph. "In a 150-mph corner, the T.50S will pull around 2.5 g's of lateral acceleration, and 3.5 g under braking," Murray promises.

Both variants of this car are just amazing. I think its something that really appeals to a true petrol head.
Source?

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trinidefender wrote:
Sat Feb 27, 2021 11:43 pm
ironben88 wrote:
Sat Feb 27, 2021 5:35 pm
Peak downforce is 3300 pounds, with GMA reckoning that the car is generating more than its own weight—and therefore theoretically capable of traveling upside down—at 175 mph. "In a 150-mph corner, the T.50S will pull around 2.5 g's of lateral acceleration, and 3.5 g under braking," Murray promises.

Both variants of this car are just amazing. I think its something that really appeals to a true petrol head.
Source?
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a3557 ... -revealed/

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Jolle wrote:
Sat Feb 27, 2021 9:12 pm
With those amount of G’s, it will be impossible to get anywhere near the cars performance on public roads. Even an emergency brake is dangerous with oncoming traffic (if it doesn’t give you a whiplash before the BMW behind you rear ends you)
It isn't road legal.

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There´s no road legal tires wich can handle that Gs, wich is the limit of all current hypercars wich try to break some record or be the fastest. Valkirie was also limited by the tires.

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If you're building a high downforce track only car, I don't know why you would use anything other than a slick tyre. Even something like a Cup2r would probably be destroyed after a couple of laps on a track like Silverstone.

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"A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool."~William Shakespeare

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YEEEEES!!! What a machine!

I had my doubts about the looks of the mock-up, but this is simply stunning with the all-black finish. The McLaren F1 heritage is very obvious. I'm in looooooove!

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Seeing it in motion in the video, the first thing that came to my mind was - it looks like a refreshed F1. The stance, the side profile, it's obvious that the same mind dreamt up both cars..
Turbo says "Dumpster sounds so much more classy. It's the diamond of the cesspools." oh, and "The Dutch fans are drunk. Maybe"