2019 Spanish Grand Prix - Catalunya, May 10-12

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Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix - Catalunya, May 10-12

Post by F1Fan2018 » Tue May 07, 2019 4:13 pm

https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12474 ... t-mercedes

We will have a new power unit that we are introducing ahead of schedule, as the second specification was due to be brought to Canada," team boss Mattia Binotto said as he confirmed the two-race jump.

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Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix - Catalunya, May 10-12

Post by Bill_Kar » Tue May 07, 2019 4:25 pm

F1Fan2018 wrote:
Tue May 07, 2019 4:13 pm
https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12474 ... t-mercedes

We will have a new power unit that we are introducing ahead of schedule, as the second specification was due to be brought to Canada," team boss Mattia Binotto said as he confirmed the two-race jump.
Well, if they're still behind Merc, we can call it a day

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Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix - Catalunya, May 10-12

Post by GPR -A » Tue May 07, 2019 4:33 pm

F1Fan2018 wrote:
Tue May 07, 2019 4:13 pm
https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12474 ... t-mercedes

We will have a new power unit that we are introducing ahead of schedule, as the second specification was due to be brought to Canada," team boss Mattia Binotto said as he confirmed the two-race jump.
I am guessing their new chassis upgrade is bringing more drag than they would have liked and hence the need for more power to retain the current straight line speeds. Otherwise, it doesn't make sense to bring a PU upgrade so soon in the season for a circuit that is not really a full power circuit like Canada or Britain and then the next circuit on the calendar is Monaco!

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Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix - Catalunya, May 10-12

Post by ferkan » Tue May 07, 2019 4:43 pm

Great that they are so aggressive. If they are still behind by next two races, they can call it quits with this year and figure out what the hell happened so that it doesnt repeat next year.

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Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix - Catalunya, May 10-12

Post by Unf » Tue May 07, 2019 4:45 pm

GPR -A wrote:
Tue May 07, 2019 4:33 pm
Otherwise, it doesn't make sense to bring a PU upgrade so soon in the season for a circuit that is not really a full power circuit like Canada or Britain and then the next circuit on the calendar is Monaco!
Actually they have no more time to stay with logic in their long term strategy. They are 73 points behind and without huge and immidiately boost they will be 88 more behind untill Canada...

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Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix - Catalunya, May 10-12

Post by dans79 » Tue May 07, 2019 5:02 pm

Unf wrote:
Tue May 07, 2019 4:45 pm
Actually they have no more time to stay with logic in their long term strategy. They are 73 points behind and without huge and immidiately boost they will be 88 more behind untill Canada...
All the races are of equal value, so it makes no sense to bring an upgrade this early. All this is going to do is limit them later in the season.

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Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix - Catalunya, May 10-12

Post by Unf » Tue May 07, 2019 7:03 pm

dans79 wrote:
Tue May 07, 2019 5:02 pm
All the races are of equal value, so it makes no sense to bring an upgrade this early. All this is going to do is limit them later in the season.
What you saying is logical. I said that Ferrari can't think in logic way, casue they are simply not allowed right now. Such big compane, under tremendous demands from fans, media in Italy etc. They MUST win as early as possible. This is Ferrari's weaknes as well - they dont may, they must.

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Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix - Catalunya, May 10-12

Post by Zynerji » Tue May 07, 2019 7:23 pm

They have obviously changed plans. Only time will tell if they made the right decisions.

I'm excited to see what everyone brings to this race for upgrades! Its like the second car reveal of the year time!

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Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix - Catalunya, May 10-12

Post by dans79 » Tue May 07, 2019 7:27 pm

Unf wrote:
Tue May 07, 2019 7:03 pm
What you saying is logical. I said that Ferrari can't think in logic way, casue they are simply not allowed right now. Such big compane, under tremendous demands from fans, media in Italy etc. They MUST win as early as possible. This is Ferrari's weaknes as well - they dont may, they must.
That's a bad way to run a team. I'm a Chicago cubs fan (108 years between championships), and I'm more familiar than most about how bad it can get when you let the fans dictate team decisions.

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Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix - Catalunya, May 10-12

Post by LM10 » Tue May 07, 2019 7:48 pm

dans79 wrote:
Tue May 07, 2019 7:27 pm
Unf wrote:
Tue May 07, 2019 7:03 pm
What you saying is logical. I said that Ferrari can't think in logic way, casue they are simply not allowed right now. Such big compane, under tremendous demands from fans, media in Italy etc. They MUST win as early as possible. This is Ferrari's weaknes as well - they dont may, they must.
That's a bad way to run a team. I'm a Chicago cubs fan (108 years between championships), and I'm more familiar than most about how bad it can get when you let the fans dictate team decisions.
They’ve obviously changed their plans and came to the conclusion this might be the better route. I very much doubt that media and fans made them rush a PU upgrade.

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Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix - Catalunya, May 10-12

Post by dans79 » Tue May 07, 2019 7:59 pm

LM10 wrote:
Tue May 07, 2019 7:48 pm
dans79 wrote:
Tue May 07, 2019 7:27 pm
Unf wrote:
Tue May 07, 2019 7:03 pm
What you saying is logical. I said that Ferrari can't think in logic way, casue they are simply not allowed right now. Such big compane, under tremendous demands from fans, media in Italy etc. They MUST win as early as possible. This is Ferrari's weaknes as well - they dont may, they must.
That's a bad way to run a team. I'm a Chicago cubs fan (108 years between championships), and I'm more familiar than most about how bad it can get when you let the fans dictate team decisions.
They’ve obviously changed their plans and came to the conclusion this might be the better route. I very much doubt that media and fans made them rush a PU upgrade.
They are definitely under pressure, as the Italian press has already been hostile this season.

They already beat the spec 2 Honda, and a PU upgrade isn't going to close the gap to Mercedes unless they magically came up with a lot more power or efficiency. I see no good reason to bring this upgrade now, unless they have reliability concerns about spec 1.

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Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix - Catalunya, May 10-12

Post by Schuttelberg » Tue May 07, 2019 8:03 pm

F1Fan2018 wrote:
Tue May 07, 2019 4:13 pm
https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12474 ... t-mercedes

We will have a new power unit that we are introducing ahead of schedule, as the second specification was due to be brought to Canada," team boss Mattia Binotto said as he confirmed the two-race jump.
Can almost hear Toto in my ears.. :roll:
"Sebastian there's very, you're a member of a very select few.. Stewart, Lauda, Piquet, Senna, Prost, Schumacher, Fangio.. VETTEL!"

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Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix - Catalunya, May 10-12

Post by Ringleheim » Tue May 07, 2019 8:12 pm

LM10 wrote:
Tue May 07, 2019 7:48 pm
dans79 wrote:
Tue May 07, 2019 7:27 pm
Unf wrote:
Tue May 07, 2019 7:03 pm
What you saying is logical. I said that Ferrari can't think in logic way, casue they are simply not allowed right now. Such big compane, under tremendous demands from fans, media in Italy etc. They MUST win as early as possible. This is Ferrari's weaknes as well - they dont may, they must.
That's a bad way to run a team. I'm a Chicago cubs fan (108 years between championships), and I'm more familiar than most about how bad it can get when you let the fans dictate team decisions.
They’ve obviously changed their plans and came to the conclusion this might be the better route. I very much doubt that media and fans made them rush a PU upgrade.
I love how folks posting on a message board assume, in 10 seconds, that they have thought about and concluded a better course of action than Ferrari. Because, you know, there is no one in Maranello with intelligence spending much time thinking about these matters.

And no one within Ferrari exercises logical thinking because, you know, they are all fiery Italians with a Latin personality and always hyper excited and incapable of rational thought.

:lol:

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Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix - Catalunya, May 10-12

Post by F1NAC » Tue May 07, 2019 8:15 pm

GPR -A wrote:
Tue May 07, 2019 4:33 pm
F1Fan2018 wrote:
Tue May 07, 2019 4:13 pm
https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12474 ... t-mercedes

We will have a new power unit that we are introducing ahead of schedule, as the second specification was due to be brought to Canada," team boss Mattia Binotto said as he confirmed the two-race jump.
I am guessing their new chassis upgrade is bringing more drag than they would have liked and hence the need for more power to retain the current straight line speeds. Otherwise, it doesn't make sense to bring a PU upgrade so soon in the season for a circuit that is not really a full power circuit like Canada or Britain and then the next circuit on the calendar is Monaco!
Maybe they'll use PU1 at Monaco and not this one

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Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix - Catalunya, May 10-12

Post by dtro » Tue May 07, 2019 10:21 pm

Is the PU we’ll see from the reds the one they ran in testing minus the reliability issues they had in said test? I was under the impression that the PU so far has been some sort of halfway house solution.