Schuttelberg wrote: ↑
Wed Aug 05, 2020 5:36 pm
Polarit wrote: ↑
Wed Aug 05, 2020 2:31 am
Schuttelberg wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 03, 2020 8:55 pm
And I am better looking than Brad Pitt.
Bottas is nowhere near currently Rosberg. Rosberg is hugely underrated by some.
Rosberg is under rated as is Webber. For me, Hamilton's biggest team mate to trump was Button. The way they both raced without crashing consistently and the fact that Hamilton beat him over 3 years (big enough sample size) shows the class of driver Hamilton is.
Alonso, Button and Rosberg. You're talking about a man that's beaten 3 world champions. Image plays a huge role in life so Alonso gets highlighted a lot more.
If someone says Bottas is anywhere near any of the three, they're a screw lose if you ask me. Better than Vettel? Oh certainly!
Mods please move this discussion to the proper thread
BOT is currently closer in performance to HAM than ROS was in 14 or 15. 16 was highly skewed by all of HAMs reliability issues. BOT beats HAM more often in qually than ROS did when irregularities(like ROS cheating in Mon '14, or HAMs repeated qually car failures)
BOT makes less mistakes while leading and during wheel to wheel battle, even though he is less experienced than ROS was in '14.
BUT was the worst of HAMs big time opponents. Ranked in order of success/quality vs HAM it would be ALO then BOT then ROS then BUT then KOV if you accounted for irregularities and "luck". HAM trounced BUT in qually even moreso than he did KOV. BUT had a lot of luck with alternate strategies, something that ROS and BOT(and ALO) are not afforded. BUT's record vs HAM is also embellished because MAS and WEB were used as blockers to destabilize HAM for their #1 drivers and crashed into HAM several times. Also many many McLaren mistakes, car failures and poor pitstops.
If one objectively watches the quallys it is clear, BOT outqualifies the all time pole position record holder HAM more often than ROS did, when you take out the nonsense like cheating and car failures. (ALO and KOV must be removed from that part if the discussion because of race fuel qually that was in effect from 07-09)
If one watches the races it is clear that BOT makes less mistakes than ROS. BOT, in 18 and 19, is better vs HAM than ROS was in 14 and 15.