2020 Bahrain Grand Prix - Sakhir, Nov 27 - 29

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Re: 2020 Bahrain Grand Prix - Sakhir, Nov 27 - 29

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I really don't understand why in F1 we have the same noddy little fire extinguishers they have in primary schools, look at the guy fiddling to get the pin out, why does it even need a pin? It should just break the seal as soon as you squeeze the damn thing, shouldn't need to mess around like that. Also, what happened to the cockpit fire extinguishers, were they removed?

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Anyone wanna take an educated guess at in what speed the car went into the barriers ?
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Shrieker wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:42 pm
Anyone wanna take an educated guess at in what speed the car went into the barriers ?
221 km/h

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Just_a_fan wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 12:04 am
LM10 wrote:
Mon Nov 30, 2020 9:20 pm
Just_a_fan wrote:
Mon Nov 30, 2020 8:57 pm

Spa 2012? The one where he just cut across the entire track and basically ran in to Hamilton who was minding his own business? There was no one near him, no one in front of him. He just went yeehaw! across the track.
I lost it at the last sentence.
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I had to lol at the last sentence.

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LM10 wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:55 pm
Just_a_fan wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 12:04 am
LM10 wrote:
Mon Nov 30, 2020 9:20 pm


I lost it at the last sentence.
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I had to lol at the last sentence.
Oh, yeah, I get what you mean now. :lol:
Turbo says "Dumpster sounds so much more classy. It's the diamond of the cesspools." oh, and "The Dutch fans are drunk. Maybe"

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LM10 wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:55 pm
Shrieker wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:42 pm
Anyone wanna take an educated guess at in what speed the car went into the barriers ?
221 km/h
I think I saw an acceleration of -54g mentioned, just to add to the information.

0.5mv^2 for the kinetic energy assuming 850kg car + fuel and then using 4185J/g for TNT, the energy was equivalent to 338g (or 0.75lb) of TNT.

Pointless comparison by me, but I did just wonder how much energy was involved (over 1.5MJ of kinetic energy, which sounds a lot but isn't when we remember that petrol has c.47MJ/kg available when burning).
Turbo says "Dumpster sounds so much more classy. It's the diamond of the cesspools." oh, and "The Dutch fans are drunk. Maybe"

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Jolyon Palmer's analysis of the Grosjean incident.


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Just_a_fan wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 4:01 pm
LM10 wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:55 pm
Just_a_fan wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 12:04 am

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I had to lol at the last sentence.
Oh, yeah, I get what you mean now. :lol:
:lol:

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Just_a_fan wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 4:22 pm
LM10 wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:55 pm
Shrieker wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:42 pm
Anyone wanna take an educated guess at in what speed the car went into the barriers ?
221 km/h
I think I saw an acceleration of -54g mentioned, just to add to the information.

0.5mv^2 for the kinetic energy assuming 850kg car + fuel and then using 4185J/g for TNT, the energy was equivalent to 338g (or 0.75lb) of TNT.

Pointless comparison by me, but I did just wonder how much energy was involved (over 1.5MJ of kinetic energy, which sounds a lot but isn't when we remember that petrol has c.47MJ/kg available when burning).
Might be pointless, but very interesting. =D>

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Just two litres of fuel...

this is 70ies style full breach fire.
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LM10 wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:55 pm
Shrieker wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:42 pm
Anyone wanna take an educated guess at in what speed the car went into the barriers ?
221 km/h
The Times UK claims Grosjean hit the barriers with 137 MPH, so that'd be 220 kph, so that's either a pretty eagle scharp guess or not a guess at all :P
Dumpster sounds so much more classy. It's the diamond of the cesspools.

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Found this on Reddit, a translation of Grosjean's recollection of those 30 seconds.

https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comme ... lames_the/

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notsofast wrote:
Thu Dec 03, 2020 1:26 am
Found this on Reddit, a translation of Grosjean's recollection of those 30 seconds.

https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comme ... lames_the/
It's amazing that in addition to all that, he also had the clarity of thought to think of the fans, teams and other drivers and find a way to reassure them that he is ok.

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Grosjean is a danger to himself and others. He just doesn't have any proximal awareness. Glad he survived. I like his speed and as a character, but his retirement from F1 is for the best.
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PlatinumZealot wrote:
Thu Dec 03, 2020 6:42 pm
Grosjean is a danger to himself and others. He just doesn't have any proximal awareness. Glad he survived. I like his speed and as a character, but his retirement from F1 is for the best.
ah come on and stop jumping in on the 'bash grosjean' bandwagon.
he's not the first, not the last, and guys like Magnussen have done stupid things too,
and so definately has Verstappen.

If Kvyat was only a noselength further behind - which probably Grosjean thought - nothing would have happened and Grosjean would have been applauded for swiftly moving aside and certainly taking over that bunch of cars into the next corner.

Kvyat's collision with Stroll was by itself far more dangerous especially the move itself concidering how stupid he was not leaving Stroll, clearly, widely ahead, any space, and diving into a point in the corner where there was no room to even go into, there was a pillar for crying out loud and he simply pointed his car there without braking enough.
Quite frankly, Kvyat's had much more brainfart moves than Grosjean.
Dumpster sounds so much more classy. It's the diamond of the cesspools.