By 2012, it had dawned upon Webber that, he was simply too slow to match Vettel and he just wanted to spoil the game in Brazil. 15-3 on pole record in 2011 was simply humiliating, while the only other non RB driver to get a pole was Hamilton and that too, only once. It was just a sour driver, unable to beat his faster team mate.Ground Effect wrote: ↑Fri Aug 10, 2018 4:09 pmMaybe in Webber's mind Brazil 2012 was payback for Istanbul 2010, or Silverstone front wing-gate, or Abu Dhabi 2010 Championship decider.GPR-A wrote: ↑Fri Aug 10, 2018 2:04 pmWas Webber crucified for what he did to Vettel in Brazil 2012? It was the last race of championship and the team had clearly discussed with Webber to help Vettel whenever the situation arises in the race as Webber was not in contention for the championship anymore. But instead, he chose to squeeze Vettel to the pit wall and overtook him at the start. That pissed the entire management.Ground Effect wrote: ↑Fri Aug 10, 2018 12:46 pmRemember the multi 2-1 incident, Webber made a comment about not expecting much to come out of it, he said Seb will get protection. It's pretty clear as day that Christian isn't remotely in charge at Red Bull, it's Marko. Christian came on the radio during that incident saying Seb, this is silly, but he still didn't obey the order.
Multi 2-1 was payback.
That is the situation with Ricciardo currently, who is unable to beat Max in qualifying, which determines who the faster driver is. If RB14 was as dominant as RB7 was, then the results would have been more or less similar to 2011 and I say this because Max gets out of the line faster on starts, than Ricciardo. So if he is on pole and gets away, then he would be gone, just like Vettel was in 2011.
In 2021, Ric would be 32 and there would be Max available on the market too. There would be Hamilton and Vettel free for 2021 and if they get locked in their respective teams, it would be once again same situation as it is for 2019. There would be Mercedes junior drivers like Ocon and George Russell on the horizon. There would be Lando Norris and Leclerc alongside. If Hulk manages to beat Ric in qualifying, then it would be game over for Ric.Ground Effect wrote: ↑Fri Aug 10, 2018 4:09 pmMaybe Ricciardo's end game is getting into a Mercedes or Ferrari for 2021? Maybe he believes Red Bull can't win the championship with Honda in 2 years, he may believe they'll be 3rd again. So why not spend the next 2 years with Renault works team, new challenge, new environment etc.