2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

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Re: 2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by trinidefender » Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:46 pm

ScottR267 wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:33 pm
McG wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 7:03 pm
2013 McLaren in recent colours

https://ibb.co/4wkdsKg
https://ibb.co/bRdhmvP
https://ibb.co/yNSmn7b
https://ibb.co/x57qCsM
Interesting to note Petrobras is still on the car given recent articles
Of course they are, they are still either the largest or probably second largest sponsor for McLaren. Until the sponsorship contract is actually cancelled, McLaren are obligated to put them on the car as long as it's in the sponsorship deal. It doesn't really matter if the sponsorship may get terminated soon.

On another note the chassis on that car was terrible, probably on the same level as last years chassis.

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Re: 2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by RonDennis » Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:52 pm

It suits the current car much better.

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Re: 2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by Jolle » Wed Oct 23, 2019 12:02 am

I wonder how teams that switch engine manufacturers deal with these legacy cars. This must have a Mercedes engine, just like the NA red bulls still run Renault power. Should be weird to suddenly have your competitors in the pit box servicing your car...

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Re: 2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by JRindt » Wed Oct 23, 2019 3:54 am

McG wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 7:03 pm
2013 McLaren in recent colours

https://ibb.co/4wkdsKg
https://ibb.co/bRdhmvP
https://ibb.co/yNSmn7b
https://ibb.co/x57qCsM
Why would they change the colours of the previous cars? #-o

Not a big fan of the ‘Orange Washing’. I feel each of the legacy cars has its own place in McLaren’s history, regardless of how much they sucked. Can’t imagine they would change the colours of MP4/4, right?

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Re: 2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by _cerber1 » Wed Oct 23, 2019 7:24 am

People are already actively painting liveries. :D =D>

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Re: 2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by Ground Effect » Wed Oct 23, 2019 9:30 am

_cerber1 wrote:
Wed Oct 23, 2019 7:24 am
People are already actively painting liveries. :D =D>

https://radikal.ru
I wonder what the rate card would be for a sponsorship of this visibility. This artist impression points to the level of a title sponsor
Q: (Stefano Mancini – La Stampa) Kimi, will you help Vettel to win his championship this year?
Kimi Raikkonen: I can only drive one car, obviously. 
@2018 Singapore Grand Prix drivers press conference.

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Re: 2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by ScottR267 » Wed Oct 23, 2019 12:02 pm

Ground Effect wrote:
Wed Oct 23, 2019 9:30 am
_cerber1 wrote:
Wed Oct 23, 2019 7:24 am
People are already actively painting liveries. :D =D>

https://radikal.ru
I wonder what the rate card would be for a sponsorship of this visibility. This artist impression points to the level of a title sponsor
I guess it depends on the team in question, their recent success and the rate card a team has for a title sponsor or principle partner as Zak refers to which he is looking for. Weren’t Vodafone paying £50 million a season or there abouts when at McLaren. Looking at other teams, the rumours are Petronas are paying Mercedes close to £75 million a season albeit this may be slightly different given a technical link up too

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Re: 2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by Xero » Wed Oct 23, 2019 1:47 pm

JRindt wrote:
Wed Oct 23, 2019 3:54 am
McG wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 7:03 pm
2013 McLaren in recent colours

https://ibb.co/4wkdsKg
https://ibb.co/bRdhmvP
https://ibb.co/yNSmn7b
https://ibb.co/x57qCsM
Why would they change the colours of the previous cars? #-o

Not a big fan of the ‘Orange Washing’. I feel each of the legacy cars has its own place in McLaren’s history, regardless of how much they sucked. Can’t imagine they would change the colours of MP4/4, right?
They keep the liveries intact for cars of historical importance. For cars like this though (which was a pretty big low point) that are repurposed for young driver track days, then I don't have any issue with it at all. Besides, the 2nd car is probably kept untouched somewhere.

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Re: 2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by McG » Wed Oct 23, 2019 2:00 pm

I'm sure they have sorted the 2013 car problems by now ;)

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Re: 2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

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Re: 2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by Chicane » Wed Oct 23, 2019 9:47 pm

43 points clear. 4th in the bag i say.
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Re: 2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by mwillems » Wed Oct 23, 2019 10:37 pm

Chicane wrote:
Wed Oct 23, 2019 9:47 pm
43 points clear. 4th in the bag i say.
I'd say so.

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Re: 2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by Mansell89 » Thu Oct 24, 2019 7:45 am

Guys just a quick reference to Mexico- we know that historically Red Bull did very well there with Renault power and Horner mentioned how the high altitude essentially took away the Merc and Ferrari advantage on power. Does this bode well for McLaren this weekend?

However, I also read that really in Mexico despite the straights, “downforce is king” in that level of altitude, which RBR have always been brilliant with.

So is it one, the other, or a mix of those two factors to consider?

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Re: 2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by Jambier » Thu Oct 24, 2019 7:46 am

It was even without this, and it is well deserved for the team

I hope that we will be happy next year [-o<
By that I mean a real progress to be close to top teams

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Re: 2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

Post by proteus » Thu Oct 24, 2019 7:59 am

Mansell89 wrote:
Thu Oct 24, 2019 7:45 am
Guys just a quick reference to Mexico- we know that historically Red Bull did very well there with Renault power and Horner mentioned how the high altitude essentially took away the Merc and Ferrari advantage on power. Does this bode well for McLaren this weekend?

However, I also read that really in Mexico despite the straights, “downforce is king” in that level of altitude, which RBR have always been brilliant with.

So is it one, the other, or a mix of those two factors to consider?
Vandoorne managed to be eight with a car that wasnt updated for months and had a fatal flaw. They might be good here, but reliability is a questionable.
If i would get the money to start my own F1 team, i would revive Arrows