[ 2020 ] Scuderia Ferrari - Ferrari

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donskar wrote:
Mon Sep 07, 2020 2:49 am
YES.. NO ARGUMENT: stability is key to success. IF you have the right people in place. Does Ferrari have the right team in place? A stable team of mediocre engineers will not produce a winner.
Stability attracts good engineers.

There are a lot of talented people who are avoiding Ferrari because it has a reputation of being a revolving door. Organizations like that can’t keep talent and won’t attract it. This is the case for most businesses.

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Ringleheim wrote:
Mon Sep 07, 2020 5:24 pm
Xwang wrote:
Mon Sep 07, 2020 5:06 pm
Ferrari will bring something new on the SF1000 at the Mugello GP:
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/ferr ... n=widget-1

how much time is it worth? :-)
It won't make the car faster, but it will make it look a hell of a lot better! This current color they use with its flat or matte sheen is the worst paint on a Ferrari F1 car, quite possibly, ever.

We'll see how "retro" they really go with the paint job! If they really go retro there won't be a single sponsorship decal on that car!

Which actually might well suit their sponsors at the moment!

LOL
Should look the business!

I believe the colour name is Rosso Corsa and it is still a (or the) Ferrari red road car colour :?:

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Obviously, the shade depends on lighting -- I don't think it is as dark as people say, though obviously it's quite a bit darker than the near-flouresecent Marlboro red of most modern Ferrari racers (apart from 07-09 IIRC which ran more of an Alfa Romeo Competizione Red metallic colour).
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I hope they go without any sponsors.

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I hear they are going to rebadge as Fiat for the rest of the year.

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Scorpaguy wrote:
Mon Sep 07, 2020 8:42 pm
I hear they are going to rebadge as Fiat for the rest of the year.
Fiat are complaining it will make them look bad




Seriously, It may literally be a magic bullet. They turn up one weekend and it is much better. (or not)
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Big Tea wrote:
Mon Sep 07, 2020 9:24 pm
Scorpaguy wrote:
Mon Sep 07, 2020 8:42 pm
I hear they are going to rebadge as Fiat for the rest of the year.
Fiat are complaining it will make them look bad




Seriously, It may literally be a magic bullet. They turn up one weekend and it is much better. (or not)
Yep...genius. The way Fiats shed bits and pieces at speed, the car will be absolutely featherweight towards the end of a GP. Too bad Seb seemed to need the brakes that were discarded by his Ferrari/Fiat at Monza.

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LM10 wrote:
Sun Sep 06, 2020 9:26 pm
gshevlin wrote:
Sun Sep 06, 2020 8:18 pm
Nobody who wants stability would join Ferrari right now. The chances that Mattia Binotto will still be in charge in 18 months are not good, simply based on past Ferrari behavior. They are prepared to sacrifice anybody if that is deemed to be necessary to mollify the disappointed.
Funny thing is that it's the fans and media asking for heads to roll. Ferrari is in a phase of changes. They finally (and luckily) seem to have understood that sacking everyone is no solution. So their current way of thinking is totally contrary to what you've written.
Stability is great and all, but if your leadership is making a mess of it, then someone has to get fired. Under the leadership of Binotto they have managed to turn a championship contender to a midfield runner in just 3 years. Not even Martin Whitmarsh could do that.

Then you can say 'it takes time', but an important part of leadership is taking responsibility; which he does not do. Not even remotely.
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wesley123 wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 12:46 pm
LM10 wrote:
Sun Sep 06, 2020 9:26 pm
gshevlin wrote:
Sun Sep 06, 2020 8:18 pm
Nobody who wants stability would join Ferrari right now. The chances that Mattia Binotto will still be in charge in 18 months are not good, simply based on past Ferrari behavior. They are prepared to sacrifice anybody if that is deemed to be necessary to mollify the disappointed.
Funny thing is that it's the fans and media asking for heads to roll. Ferrari is in a phase of changes. They finally (and luckily) seem to have understood that sacking everyone is no solution. So their current way of thinking is totally contrary to what you've written.
Stability is great and all, but if your leadership is making a mess of it, then someone has to get fired. Under the leadership of Binotto they have managed to turn a championship contender to a midfield runner in just 3 years. Not even Martin Whitmarsh could do that.

Then you can say 'it takes time', but an important part of leadership is taking responsibility; which he does not do. Not even remotely.
The previous championship contenders wouldn't have fared better, if the PU would have been in same situation. There was one major mistake, which probably was approved long while ago, which is biting extremely hard now. I am sure the chassis is an evolution from the past contenders, just that, not having enough grunt is making it appear a complete donkey. Firing and changing the organization now isn't going to yield anything. This is the time for leadership to show patience and trust. Open up the atmosphere for people to speak up honestly and not persecute them, allow ideas to come in front and look at them without prejudice. Fix the problems, not people.

Doing what has been done in the past, isn't going to make things better. 12 years are gone without a title, but there have been upteen number of executions. For a change, they should retain continuity and see how that goes. Ferrari shouldn't let people and media to drive decisions. For God's sake, fire those b*****s who constantly leak info to Italian media and keep those hungry tabloid vultures away from Maranello.
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Moore77 wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 6:05 pm
wesley123 wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 12:46 pm
LM10 wrote:
Sun Sep 06, 2020 9:26 pm


Funny thing is that it's the fans and media asking for heads to roll. Ferrari is in a phase of changes. They finally (and luckily) seem to have understood that sacking everyone is no solution. So their current way of thinking is totally contrary to what you've written.
Stability is great and all, but if your leadership is making a mess of it, then someone has to get fired. Under the leadership of Binotto they have managed to turn a championship contender to a midfield runner in just 3 years. Not even Martin Whitmarsh could do that.

Then you can say 'it takes time', but an important part of leadership is taking responsibility; which he does not do. Not even remotely.
The previous championship contenders wouldn't have fared better, if the PU would have been in same situation. There was one major mistake, which probably was approved long while ago, which is biting extremely hard now. I am sure the chassis is an evolution from the past contenders, just that, not having enough grunt is making it appear a complete donkey. Firing and changing the organization now isn't going to yield anything. This is the time for leadership to show patience and trust. Open up the atmosphere for people to speak up honestly and not persecute them, allow ideas to come in front and look at them without prejudice. Fix the problems, not people.

Doing what has been done in the past, isn't going to make things better. 12 years are gone without a title, but there have been upteen number of executions. For a change, they should retain continuity and see how that goes. Ferrari shouldn't let people and media to drive decisions. For God's sake, fire those b*****s who constantly leak info to Italian media and keep those hungry tabloid vultures away from Maranello.
Are Alfa Romeo's and Haas' performances too much similar to Ferrari's one to be only an engine problem?
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JordanMugen wrote:
Mon Sep 07, 2020 5:27 pm
I believe the colour name is Rosso Corsa and it is still a (or the) Ferrari red road car colour :?:
My mistake, the cars are not Rosso Corsa like in 1950-51 Formula One (or as you can see the car in the background) but rather a dark burgundy like the 1947 Ferrari 125S sportscar.

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You have been warned :)

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Carmack wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:25 pm
You have been warned :)
http://shrani.si/f/1t/3/2ObaU0TK/capture.jpg
Considering Spa non-score & a double DNF in Monza I doubt Ferrari care too much :lol: . It can only go better...
It is actually Merc who seems to falter when there is 50's attire around... Fingers crossed!

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MtthsMlw wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 5:26 pm
https://i.imgur.com/famUJhK.png
I like it!

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MtthsMlw wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 5:26 pm
https://i.imgur.com/famUJhK.png
And the drivers' outfits
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