Honda Power Unit Hardware & Software

All that has to do with the power train, gearbox, clutch, fuels and lubricants, etc. Generally the mechanical side of Formula One.
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Re: Honda Power Unit Hardware & Software

Post by carisi2k » Sun Feb 24, 2019 1:23 pm

The engine sounds nice and smooth and must have some power since they have been at the top of the speed traps with Renault ironically even with detuned engines. I think this year is going to be really interesting for Honda.

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Re: Honda Power Unit Hardware & Software

Post by ReoPTy » Sun Feb 24, 2019 4:13 pm

not so much detuned engine, they change it overnight, testing is a game where RBr and Honda has to calm down concerns about their last engine move, espacially after STR dire 2018 year . i mean STR ranked over Haas Mclaren and Sauber in 2017, 2018 they score half the points to finish just above williams .

i really hope for them all isn't fumes, RB shouldn't be as patient as STR were last year ..

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Re: Honda Power Unit Hardware & Software

Post by shingles » Sun Feb 24, 2019 4:29 pm

ReoPTy wrote:not so much detuned engine, they change it overnight, testing is a game where RBr and Honda has to calm down concerns about their last engine move, espacially after STR dire 2018 year . i mean STR ranked over Haas Mclaren and Sauber in 2017, 2018 they score half the points to finish just above williams .

i really hope for them all isn't fumes, RB shouldn't be as patient as STR were last year ..
The internet is a funny place. People just state random things as facts. So now RBR changed PU after each practice day?

Give me a break. If you don’t like Honda good enough. But what does making stuff up get you? If it is your THEORY, it is still not fact.


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Re: Honda Power Unit Hardware & Software

Post by godlameroso » Sun Feb 24, 2019 8:01 pm

ReoPTy wrote:
Sun Feb 24, 2019 4:13 pm
not so much detuned engine, they change it overnight, testing is a game where RBr and Honda has to calm down concerns about their last engine move, espacially after STR dire 2018 year . i mean STR ranked over Haas Mclaren and Sauber in 2017, 2018 they score half the points to finish just above williams .

i really hope for them all isn't fumes, RB shouldn't be as patient as STR were last year ..
Did they replace the TR power unit as well? :lol:
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Re: Honda Power Unit Hardware & Software

Post by Stef » Sun Feb 24, 2019 9:18 pm

Twice a day, like last year. :lol:

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Re: Honda Power Unit Hardware & Software

Post by Sieper » Sun Feb 24, 2019 9:25 pm

Guys, I was also just about to get worked up over that post, but I think he is only saying they replaced one engine (after the crash) not that they are constantly changing. And that he feels they now can and need to show the progress made. Just in a bit Poor/hard to read English.

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Re: Honda Power Unit Hardware & Software

Post by Serbian4ever » Sun Feb 24, 2019 10:12 pm

They didnt change pu overnight. They changed 1x time redbull engine because they had accient...

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Re: Honda Power Unit Hardware & Software

Post by carisi2k » Sun Feb 24, 2019 10:13 pm

Most of Honda's reliability concerns lately seem to be misunderstood. Honda actually only had 3 actual PU failures in 2018 and the rest of the engine changes were due to accidents (spain, canada and great britain) and engine testing mode where they were throwing new engines in just to see if the performance improved from new parts.

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Re: Honda Power Unit Hardware & Software

Post by dfegan358 » Sun Feb 24, 2019 11:43 pm

Qualifying in Melbourne will be the first true reflection of each power unit.

Q3 when engine modes go up to Max, that’s where Honda and Renault have struggled a lot. Be interesting to see if they have made gains in that area.

Honda seemed to develop increase power last year for Q3 but could not be used for long periods and had reliability concerns.

Renault seemed to have quite poor q3 engine modes compared to merc/Ferrari

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Re: Honda Power Unit Hardware & Software

Post by Juzh » Tue Feb 26, 2019 7:49 am

dfegan358 wrote:
Sun Feb 24, 2019 11:43 pm
Renault seemed to have quite poor q3 engine modes compared to merc/Ferrari
You can skip the "seemem to have" part, since they most definitely did, as did honda.

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Re: Honda Power Unit Hardware & Software

Post by saviour stivala » Wed Feb 27, 2019 10:02 am

Is it true that on day two Gasly's turbo went bang?. The good Doctor was praising Honda for Quick repairs.

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Re: Honda Power Unit Hardware & Software

Post by HPD » Wed Feb 27, 2019 11:29 am

saviour stivala wrote:
Wed Feb 27, 2019 10:02 am
Is it true that on day two Gasly's turbo went bang?. The good Doctor was praising Honda for Quick repairs.
They had problems. But I do not read anything from the turbo
 ただ、外から見ればトラブルフリーの4日間だったが、実際には細かなマイナートラブルは出ていて、それらを現場で対処しながら進めていた。2周目のテストには、設計レベルで対処した対策品も投入するという。こうしたプロセスを経ることで、信頼性を上げていくのだ。

「フェラーリを見てもわかるように、テストでは走り込むことが大切です。初回テストの最初の1、2日はマイナートラブルもあるでしょうけど、大物(コンポーネント)の部分で距離を稼いで問題点を出し、1レース週末分は保つことを確認しなければ、次には進めませんから。

Google translate: However, from the outside it was a trouble-free 4 days, but in fact minor minor troubles have appeared and I was progressing while dealing with them on site. For the second lap test, we will also introduce countermeasures at the design level. By going through these processes, we will improve the reliability.

"As you can see even with Ferrari, it is important to run in the test, it will be minor trouble on the first 1st and 2nd of the first test, but earn distance at the big part (component) Take out and I will not be able to proceed next time unless I confirm that I will keep one race weekend.
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Re: Honda Power Unit Hardware & Software

Post by ReoPTy » Wed Feb 27, 2019 4:21 pm

Rb is changing the engine of Verstapen, 40 laps for him, sad, hope its nothing serious

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Re: Honda Power Unit Hardware & Software

Post by Wouter » Wed Feb 27, 2019 4:40 pm

ReoPTy wrote:
Wed Feb 27, 2019 4:21 pm
Rb is changing the engine of Verstapen, 40 laps for him, sad, hope its nothing serious
That isn't correct. They are changing the gearbox!

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Re: Honda Power Unit Hardware & Software

Post by HPD » Wed Feb 27, 2019 7:59 pm

Guillaume Rocquelin: In the afternoon, we went into a scheduled race simulation. We managed two-thirds of that but after Max had a brief off, we pitted for some routine checks with the gearbox. It’s not the easiest element of the car to get deep into, so it kept us in the garage for a while.

https://redbullracing.redbull.com/artic ... test-day-2