2021 São Paulo Grand Prix - Interlagos, Nov 12-14

[Vaexa]

I'm a Verstappen fan and I firmly believe on the balance of the season, the RB16B has the faster car.

I find the technical aspect of the sport (and thus, whichever team did a better job with their car) much more thrilling than this nonsense over some driver beating another driver ''against the odds''. To think championships are won in slower cars routinely is to be purposefully ignorant. When was the last time that really happened, 2007? And before that?

It's also absolutely exhausting to see the same people constantly start these pissing matches on a forum named ''f1technical''. It's barely better than Reddit or Instagram or pick your social media network at this point.

[zibby43]

I'm a Verstappen fan and I firmly believe on the balance of the season, the RB16B has the faster car.

I find the technical aspect of the sport (and thus, whichever team did a better job with their car) much more thrilling than this nonsense over some driver beating another driver ''against the odds''. To think championships are won in slower cars routinely is to be purposefully ignorant. When was the last time that really happened, 2007? And before that?

It's also absolutely exhausting to see the same people constantly start these pissing matches on a forum named ''f1technical''. It's barely better than Reddit or Instagram or pick your social media network at this point.

Thank you for speaking out.

I hope the staff finally see this and realize we are tired of this.

[Dee]

Interesting bit from Paul Di Resta

RB have setup their car for the race and for tyre wear. Giving up 1 point during the sprint for the win on Sunday. Reading between the lines on Max comments, he is saying that the new engine Merc advantage is basically good for one race and the next race things will be different again. Definitely no comfortable this wkd though, pace looks scary from Merc atm

[atanatizante]

Horner said it`ll be down to who manage better rear tyres in the race, knowing the temps will rise until Sunday race. That`s why we could see VER fighting with understeer in qualy coz was dialled to the car in order to protect the rear tyres more at the Sunday race ...

[Wouter]

Your guys’ hero said it ain’t true.

But please, lemme pop some popcorn before y’all call him a liar. The cognitive dissonance I’ll get to watch will save me from renting a movie.

https://twitter.com/f1/status/1459251485468942338?s=21

I watch the broadcast. This doesn't make it any less true. Today they walked the day, or are you gonna deny that still?
0.5s on such as short track is advantage red bull can only dream of this year. But you know, "RB faster car all year" premise must go on.

The faster *all* year narrative is about as stupid as the narrative that any one car has ever been dominant on a weekend.

The only theory I’ve subscribed to, which is also subscribed to by literally everyone in the paddock,
is that

RBR have had the faster car over a weekend for the MAJORITY of the season.

I’ve said that about a million times. Maybe putting part of the statement in all caps will let it sink in.

[AeroDynamic]

Besides, what good is having a faster car if it doesn’t work better than another car? If it don’t work well, you can’t use its full potential. If you’re bending over backwards to get it to work, and seldom get it happy, then that’s no bueno. Especially if it’s a not fast enough when it’s not perfectly set up

[west52keep64]

Horner said it`ll be down to who manage better rear tyres in the race, knowing the temps will rise until Sunday race. That`s why we could see VER fighting with understeer in qualy coz was dialled to the car in order to protect the rear tyres more at the Sunday race ...

And he will probably have clean air on race day making it even easier to manage the rears. Meanwhile, Hamilton needs to make his way through from 5th or 6th on the grid (depending on tomorrow). I'd put my money on Verstappen for Sunday if I was in to that sort of thing.

[214270]

Missed quali, did RUS make a mistake?

[Hammerfist]

I'm a Verstappen fan and I firmly believe on the balance of the season, the RB16B has the faster car.

I find the technical aspect of the sport (and thus, whichever team did a better job with their car) much more thrilling than this nonsense over some driver beating another driver ''against the odds''. To think championships are won in slower cars routinely is to be purposefully ignorant. When was the last time that really happened, 2007? And before that?

It's also absolutely exhausting to see the same people constantly start these pissing matches on a forum named ''f1technical''. It's barely better than Reddit or Instagram or pick your social media network at this point.

I agree. Good post

Although the Ferrari was faster in 2007 as well. No way kimi or massa beating ham and Alonso if they didn’t have a faster car.

[AeroDynamic]

CH thinks the new engine is worth 2 tenths advantage this weekend, and max says he couldn’t get a good lap together because the car wasn’t happy. So on balance, when you take the variables into account, why would you cram “Mercedes is the faster car” narrative?

[Marty_Y]

Mercedes really needed Bottas to be ahead of Max, this is looking like a easy win for Max on Sunday.

The talk of taking a new engine every race is foolish imo, watch on Sunday I bet Hamilton will only finish 4th or 5th, it seems you need such a big delta to overtake on many tracks. He will end up stuck behind Gasly and Perez.

[atanatizante]

[Juzh]

so its a season of which team gives their driver the happiest car on the day sometimes. difficult to claim which car is faster based on that. Especially when we're citing screaming tyres and temperatures. Its not like Max walked away and said "the car was great" so clearly the RB isn't extracting its potential. anyway these emotional responses on this subject is quite funny.

It’s the same people starting it any time a Merc is faster in a session.

It’s a tantrum because they’re so used to RBR prevailing in all the sessions.

My only guess.

Goes both ways, just look at the meltdown you've just experienced in these past few posts when someone dare mentions mercedes isn't fastest and hamilton isn't performing miracles every time he breaths.

But since you've said I'm predictable, if you go to mexico thread you'll actually find me saying after qualifying that verstappen was in it for pole even though he was more than 3 tenths down. I didn't say red bull sucks and the car is bad after qualifying, because throughout practice it was obvious they had a very good car on that track.

Just before the race I even made a video about it that perfectly shows red bull wasn't that far off the pace in quali (if at all) without tsunoda's incident hindering final laps (post here: viewtopic.php?p=1008978#p1008978 ). Basically I went to lengths 99% of people on here wouldn't dream of going to, just to prove RB wasn't as sh1t a car in quali as it seemed initially.

Today the situation is entirely different. Whenever you go onboard on either car you can see mercedes is just easier to drive and more planted (and is a missile up the hill). RB is fishtailing all across the track and had corner entry understeer. You don't even need sector times to see this.

[AeroDynamic]

Mercedes really needed Bottas to be ahead of Max, this is looking like a easy win for Max on Sunday.

The talk of taking a new engine every race is foolish imo, watch on Sunday I bet Hamilton will only finish 4th or 5th, it seems you need such a big delta to overtake on many tracks. He will end up stuck behind Gasly and Perez.

If MCS holds onto a good advantage on Sunday, then yes, in hindsight it appears the stars just never aligned enough times for them because more than one event now, have they been favourite to take the checkered flag but surrender it for an engine related penalty.

[Viper2789]

How many times have RB mentioned "new engine"