Interesting, and aligns with the rumour we heard earlier in the year (and it’s been floated against post-launch) that Aston aren’t particularly happy with it… time will tellGiando wrote: ↑11 Feb 2022, 00:36Giorgio Piola in this video says that he is highly unimpressed by the MR22.
https://youtu.be/p4U58-_zuUA
It's huge and goofy in his opinion. Too much similar to the FIA showcar.
Also, he suspect Aston could be one of the teams that "may have got it all wrong" referring to the recent words by James Allison, considering the links between Mercedes and AM.
His colleague Franco Nugnes also wrote that "the first impression is that the car could struggle to reach the minimum 795kg weight limit" (weird comment, imho, cause... on which data?)
If I recall, the force Indias sometimes struggled with being overweight.JPBD1990 wrote: ↑11 Feb 2022, 00:45Interesting, and aligns with the rumour we heard earlier in the year (and it’s been floated against post-launch) that Aston aren’t particularly happy with it… time will tellGiando wrote: ↑11 Feb 2022, 00:36Giorgio Piola in this video says that he is highly unimpressed by the MR22.
https://youtu.be/p4U58-_zuUA
It's huge and goofy in his opinion. Too much similar to the FIA showcar.
Also, he suspect Aston could be one of the teams that "may have got it all wrong" referring to the recent words by James Allison, considering the links between Mercedes and AM.
His colleague Franco Nugnes also wrote that "the first impression is that the car could struggle to reach the minimum 795kg weight limit" (weird comment, imho, cause... on which data?)
Isn't that where the exhaust manifold is?
I would expect it would be. Probably gold foiled on the inside as well!
On the black bits in front of the pull rod? That’s the access panel for the rear suspension I think
Possibly! But sorry my question was about airflow off that region and onto the top of the diffuser/rear wing.
These two cars are ambition wise on the other side of the spectrum. HAAS knows, with their funding and design department, they can’t take any risks. They probably said to Dallara; “go conservative and build a steady platform”, with the hope some team will have it so wrong, they won’t come in last. AM of course has the ambition to punch above its weight and more funds, people, etc, so, they need to take some risks. Who knows, if it works they fight with McLaren and Ferrari for third…JPBD1990 wrote: ↑11 Feb 2022, 01:40Possibly! But sorry my question was about airflow off that region and onto the top of the diffuser/rear wing.
If you look at the Haas engine cover for comparison, it’s the more ‘jelly mould’ shape we’ve been used to over the past few years where that area is essentially flat.
I understand the ‘double floor’ concept, so I guess my question is - do people think there is more benefit from having totally free space in this region (Haas) and freeing up airflow entirely to the rear, or this solution where there is a large protuberance that looks like it’s ‘in the way’ of the airflow, but actually the airflow from underneath that section is more ‘energised’ to the diffuser?
I do a lot of 3D work and that angle does not line up with the top of the side pod even with perspective turned on. The top of sidepod is almost level front to back.RZS10 wrote: ↑10 Feb 2022, 22:47I'm with Jolle on this ... i'd say it's the louvres ... one would also expect the radiators to start way further forward, roughly where i drew in the red dots, they surely aren't leaving such a huge space unused (?)
https://i.imgur.com/v30L9cv.png
Piola had the aero layout of the Aston predicted almost to a T a few weeks ago. I think his source at Aston is actually legit.Giando wrote: ↑11 Feb 2022, 00:36Giorgio Piola in this video says that he is highly unimpressed by the MR22.
https://youtu.be/p4U58-_zuUA
It's huge and goofy in his opinion. Too much similar to the FIA showcar.
Also, he suspect Aston could be one of the teams that "may have got it all wrong" referring to the recent words by James Allison, considering the links between Mercedes and AM.
His colleague Franco Nugnes also wrote that "the first impression is that the car could struggle to reach the minimum 795kg weight limit" (weird comment, imho, cause... on which data?)
I agree, the view is from fairly low. Normally you wouldn't expect to see the last louvres almost being obscured by the bottom of the intake. The perspective and resolution/colour makes it seem more like a rad.