PlatinumZealot wrote: ↑
Wed May 04, 2022 4:11 pm
chrisc90 wrote: ↑
Wed May 04, 2022 10:54 am
MattWellsyWells wrote: ↑
Wed May 04, 2022 10:50 am
You're right there are lots of nationalities on the grid although most are pretty "western", but in terms of ethnicity, Hamilton is the first and only black driver in F1. I'm not gonna pretend I have any idea what that is like being a white man but I have heard people reference their struggles of being "the only" and it sounds like its probably quite an isolating experience.
I guess. It’s good he’s raising awareness to other black drivers/staff of colour with his campaigns.
However, it does not automatically mean there should be ‘more’ people in the sport.
Lewis is not saying that under-qualified people of colour should be given a spot over someone that is qualified (whatever race or ethnicity). He goes into find out the reasons why persons of colour (especially black people) are not being able to go for (disadvantaged, or even not interested, or even discouraged from going for) opportunities in the sport and suggest ways for the industry to help cure that problem.
If someone is qualified/experience lad enough then they can make the cut.
I have so much experience with this not happening. It's common knowledge that this is not the case. Are you a person of colour to say this from first hand? Forget about the University "diversity quotas" those are limited spots for marketing reasons. After university getting an actual job is crazy difficult if you are from a certain background.
Nothing is stopping anyone from doing any role if they put their mind/heart/soul into it.
Crazy statement. Crazy, crazy statement! It's so inaccurate!
I will leave it to you, if you willing to take the time, to find reasons why certain groups of people people have difficulties in going for and getting certain roles even if they put their heart and minds into it. That will be a long read but it's needed if you want to talk about this topic.
Chrisc90 I'm sure are you a well educated guy and we have brilliant engineers and scientist here, but sometimes we (including myself) have to do proper reading on certain topics before we make sweeping statements.
I don't know what to say... It's sad because you say this, and I know so many brilliant engineers who topped their class and we turned down, a few I know gave up and had to do additional degrees to try for something more open.
I guess you speak for everyone/every business when you say that a certain group of people have more difficulty in securing a job post uni?
I mean its quite frankly impossible for anyone to suggest this is truly the case unless any person applies for every position going and know they dont get the job based on their background or colour.
If I was a employer of a race team (or any business outside of motorsport) and I had a list of 2 candidates shortlisted. Person A - Level 3 in xyz subject, 2 years experience working in xyz company doing apprentice level subject however is white
Person B - Honours in xyz subject, multiple years working as a aerodynamicist (example), looking to further career or fancies a change of workplace however is a person of colour.
I would choose the guy who is more experienced. As a company you'd want the best possible person who is going to be a asset to your team.
Its odd to say that the companies a person has applied for and didn't get the job is solely down to a person's colour, background etc. However I am not a person who is qualified to be in a race team neither do I process any knowledge of it.
You could take football as a prime example of a sport that has a lot of people of colour competing at the highest level. Theres loads of coloured footballers in the premier league for example. If they werent good enough, they wouldnt be competing at one of the highest levels of football. Athletics tournaments on a worldwide scale... You see lots of coloured people competing there.
Whilst you might not agree with my comments, I stand by them as its my own opinion. Whilst I might not have any first hand experience of a coloured person in motorsport, I really do find it hard to believe race teams wouldnt chose not to employ a coloured person from a different culture/background.
Im sure you could go through every race team and their staff, including those behind the scenes, and find numerous people from a range of backgrounds/ethnicities.