Mercedes W13

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djones
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Track temp seems higher than in FP3 and that was already a big problem for them. I can't see this going well at all.

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Need to make up they’re mind if Hot temperatures help or hinder. Yesterday it was hot temperatures helped.

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f1jcw wrote:
Sat May 07, 2022 9:44 pm
Need to make up they’re mind if Hot temperatures help or hinder. Yesterday it was hot temperatures helped.
FP2 yesterday was cooler than FP1 and FP3 and Q now. But the general thing is that the operating window is small. Slightly too cold and it's bad, slightly too hot and it's bad.

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Looks like George possibly put a little more downforce on the car as he was bouncing wayyy more than Lewis, even in some corners it seems that made the car lose traction.

AA_2019
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Where did Friday’s pace go?
Why the Ferrari is so fast is a bigger mystery than why the Merc W13 is so slow !

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AA_2019 wrote:
Sat May 07, 2022 10:06 pm
Where did Friday’s pace go?
sliding, too hot and they're cooking tyres which probably are also too soft and make it easier to trigger porpoising too.

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chrisc90 wrote:
Sat May 07, 2022 8:22 pm
That'll get stopped in no time i'd imagine. Surprised they get away with it.
There's no deflection test for the front wing flaps AFAIK, it's all fair game there. :)

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GrizzleBoy wrote:
Sat May 07, 2022 9:59 pm
Looks like George possibly put a little more downforce on the car as he was bouncing wayyy more than Lewis, even in some corners it seems that made the car lose traction.
I thought it was more downforce > more bouncing

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Bomber_Pilot wrote:
Sat May 07, 2022 8:12 pm
Nothing to see here :)

https://i.ibb.co/NnkG86q/1-2.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/kg5DYH5/2-2.jpg
Literally every car on the track has similar deflection on the front wing flaps.

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Mchamilton wrote:
Sat May 07, 2022 10:42 pm
Bomber_Pilot wrote:
Sat May 07, 2022 8:12 pm
Nothing to see here :)

https://i.ibb.co/NnkG86q/1-2.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/kg5DYH5/2-2.jpg
Literally every car on the track has similar deflection on the front wing flaps.
It would be interesting to see a comparison. To me it looks like this new Mercedes wing flexes way more than others. But if it passed the test, it is good. I wonder if others will try to copy this concept.

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matteosc wrote:
Sat May 07, 2022 11:58 pm
Mchamilton wrote:
Sat May 07, 2022 10:42 pm
Bomber_Pilot wrote:
Sat May 07, 2022 8:12 pm
Nothing to see here :)

https://i.ibb.co/NnkG86q/1-2.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/kg5DYH5/2-2.jpg
Literally every car on the track has similar deflection on the front wing flaps.
It would be interesting to see a comparison. To me it looks like this new Mercedes wing flexes way more than others. But if it passed the test, it is good. I wonder if others will try to copy this concept.
It ismt new though its been like this simce they launched the car, it ismt part of the wing upgrade.

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GrizzleBoy wrote:
Sun May 08, 2022 12:20 am
matteosc wrote:
Sat May 07, 2022 11:58 pm
Mchamilton wrote:
Sat May 07, 2022 10:42 pm


Literally every car on the track has similar deflection on the front wing flaps.
It would be interesting to see a comparison. To me it looks like this new Mercedes wing flexes way more than others. But if it passed the test, it is good. I wonder if others will try to copy this concept.
It ismt new though its been like this simce they launched the car, it ismt part of the wing upgrade.
Given I have no opinion on the issue. It was the same with Ferrari in Australia and they had the team reinforce the wing and had Sainz go around a bunch of laps with laser measurement for the front wing flexing.


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Just watched Toto’s post qualy interview with Ted Kravitz, he basically confirms it is the floor
Why the Ferrari is so fast is a bigger mystery than why the Merc W13 is so slow !

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AA_2019 wrote:
Fri May 06, 2022 11:41 pm
Can we conclude the new front wing has moved Merc forward a good step.

Yes the low DF rear wing helps but other teams have also adopted the same so it rather helped them not go backwards.

Purpoising still a problem. I’m so jealous of the RB which had virtually no purpoising even in FP2

PS anyone got a link to speed trap info?
One session (FP2) does not a season make!
Still 8 tenths behind! :cry:
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chrisc90 wrote:
Sat May 07, 2022 8:22 pm
Bomber_Pilot wrote:
Sat May 07, 2022 8:12 pm
Nothing to see here :)

https://i.ibb.co/NnkG86q/1-2.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/kg5DYH5/2-2.jpg
That'll get stopped in no time i'd imagine. Surprised they get away with it.
The Ferrari does that too, people just aren't looking!
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