2022 Spanish Grand Prix - Catalunya, May 20 - 22

[lh13]

What a shame for Charles,he was on for a commanding win.What a pleasure to see Mercedes back at the sharp end (in a way),George is a fantastic driver and hes only going to get better.As for Hamilton what is there to be said, unlucky incident on lap 1 but man what a drive he delivered...The man made almost 1 minute deficit from being dead last.W13 has really strong pace in it as Lewis showed and also shame for the overheating and coolant issues at the end. As for RedBull not really much to comment,fast car made the best of the situation and thus a natural outcome.The place swap was expected although Sergio seemed to not have the pace to challenge for the win but its was still blatant and shame and not needed this early into the season.

Some of topic stuff
The amount of toxicity in some post is really sickening.You cant even give the man a break even when he is not relevant in a race!The blind hate for Hamilton from a bunch of people is astonishing.Get a life and lay off the hate and even though Lewis has nothing to prove to you,he already has with his carrer and you probably sulk every night reading the stats in his Wikipedia page.
I joined in 2010 and its the first time ive seen such a toxic childish and provocative posts.Had you lot being there back then you would probably have seen the door by now.

He did wan to quit the race. we must criticize him for this sad attitude. it is un sporting and a bad example to youngsters.

No, we don't.

I'm just pointing at the Max fans/Lewis haters for not crediting an outstanding drive, but fueling the hate on what was a brilliant Lewis' comeback drive this afternoon.

So anyone who doesn't appreciate Hamilton is a max fan? By similar logic you're a Max hater (since you're a Hamilton fan) so you're no different and in no position to lecture others.

[cplchanb]

What a shame for Charles,he was on for a commanding win.What a pleasure to see Mercedes back at the sharp end (in a way),George is a fantastic driver and hes only going to get better.As for Hamilton what is there to be said, unlucky incident on lap 1 but man what a drive he delivered...The man made almost 1 minute deficit from being dead last.W13 has really strong pace in it as Lewis showed and also shame for the overheating and coolant issues at the end. As for RedBull not really much to comment,fast car made the best of the situation and thus a natural outcome.The place swap was expected although Sergio seemed to not have the pace to challenge for the win but its was still blatant and shame and not needed this early into the season.

Some of topic stuff
The amount of toxicity in some post is really sickening.You cant even give the man a break even when he is not relevant in a race!The blind hate for Hamilton from a bunch of people is astonishing.Get a life and lay off the hate and even though Lewis has nothing to prove to you,he already has with his carrer and you probably sulk every night reading the stats in his Wikipedia page.
I joined in 2010 and its the first time ive seen such a toxic childish and provocative posts.Had you lot being there back then you would probably have seen the door by now.

i guess not every one is Lewis fans. I don't think it is a rule to be one.
He did wan to quit the race. we must criticize him for this sad attitude. it is un sporting and a bad example to youngsters.

I would agree. I’m a massive fan of Lewis race craft. He’s extremely good at positioning a car generally. One of the all time greats. But his attitude let’s him down at times. And it did today, he would have retired the car and “saved the engine” if his team had let him. Am glad the team kept him out. The pace was blinding.

well to be fair he was punted to the back and for the first few laps after the pit it looked like his car was damaged due to very slow lap times...it couldve been easily like Spa 2014....

You also have to take these radio broadcasts with a huge grain of salt sometimes... they often take only the entertaining snippets out of the overall conversation just to spice things up for the tv viewers. remember its Liberty at work here...american drama is their speciality.....

[rifrafs2kees]

What a shame for Charles,he was on for a commanding win.What a pleasure to see Mercedes back at the sharp end (in a way),George is a fantastic driver and hes only going to get better.As for Hamilton what is there to be said, unlucky incident on lap 1 but man what a drive he delivered...The man made almost 1 minute deficit from being dead last.W13 has really strong pace in it as Lewis showed and also shame for the overheating and coolant issues at the end. As for RedBull not really much to comment,fast car made the best of the situation and thus a natural outcome.The place swap was expected although Sergio seemed to not have the pace to challenge for the win but its was still blatant and shame and not needed this early into the season.

Some of topic stuff
The amount of toxicity in some post is really sickening.You cant even give the man a break even when he is not relevant in a race!The blind hate for Hamilton from a bunch of people is astonishing.Get a life and lay off the hate and even though Lewis has nothing to prove to you,he already has with his carrer and you probably sulk every night reading the stats in his Wikipedia page.
I joined in 2010 and its the first time ive seen such a toxic childish and provocative posts.Had you lot being there back then you would probably have seen the door by now.

i guess not every one is Lewis fans. I don't think it is a rule to be one.
He did wan to quit the race. we must criticize him for this sad attitude. it is un sporting and a bad example to youngsters.

I once asked said person to employ cognitive tools. A challenge that's impossible for some to rise to; not for lack of cognitive abilities...but blind and deep-seated hatred; in summary a moral/ethical issue, which has no cure!

[kenshi_blind]

The guy got hit on lap 1 , got his diffuser damaged and was almost a minute behind, everything that was happening and knowing how difficult it is to pass on this track, thinking about retiring the car to save the engine wasn't a bad idea....

[Poleman]

The guy got hit on lap 1 , got his diffuser damaged and was almost a minute behind, everything that was happening and knowing how difficult is passing on this track, thinking about retiring the car to save the engine wasn't a bad idea....

Shhhh! How dare you speak logic in here!

[WaikeCU]

He did wan to quit the race. we must criticize him for this sad attitude. it is un sporting and a bad example to youngsters.

No, we don't.

I'm just pointing at the Max fans/Lewis haters for not crediting an outstanding drive, but fueling the hate on what was a brilliant Lewis' comeback drive this afternoon.

So anyone who doesn't appreciate Hamilton is a max fan? By similar logic you're a Max hater (since you're a Hamilton fan) so you're no different and in no position to lecture others.

Just pointing out, because reading the comments on the Dutch F1 websites (It could get a bit biased in that comment section), it's all I read atm:
- Lewis' giving up mentality
- Lewis should not be DOTD, because he wanted to give up
- Lewis should not only retire this race, but also from F1
- etc.

When I read similar things here on this forum, but less vocal. Then I could get an idea where this hate is coming from...

Max won the race for RB, didn't expect any other than that with RB at the moment tbf.

[ringo]

What's the motivation for Perez to drive in that RBR when it's absolutely sure that he at best would finish second at the end of the season, despite doing well He's shown some serious pace in this season and it's still early days, but still they focus 100% on Max.

If paid on points, Sergio is just fine compared to being unemployed.

He was almost jobless at the end of 2020 and RB gave him new lease of life. He underperformed last year because of which they lost constructors and kept trust in him. Only this year, he is doing the job. So it's fair that he owes a lot to the team and go with what the team wants.

Perez paid them back in tukey 2021 and abudhabi 2021. His hands made Max WDC basically. He doesnt owe them anything at this stage.

[101FlyingDutchman]

The guy got hit on lap 1 , got his diffuser damaged and was almost a minute behind, everything that was happening and knowing how difficult is passing on this track, thinking about retiring the car to save the engine wasn't a bad idea....

Totally agreed. Also agreed with previous poster wrt Liberty only ever releasing little bits for the “entertainment factor”.

We don’t know sometimes. What we do know is that hopefully very soon we may have 6 cars fighting for wins. That’s unheard of in an inaugural season after a rule change. Surely that is going to make the next few years EXTREMELY spicy!

[JordanMugen]

I'm totally disgusted with these RedBull team orders. It's just so manufactured and fake.. And it's just six races in. Smh.

Everyone knows Perez is the number two driver at Red Bull. Red Bull tried to get Russell as equal number one in 2021, but Mercedes wouldn't release the Norfolk ace from contract, so Perez as number two it is.

The only other choice for Red Bull to find an equal number one (which is the ideal scenario, as a team should always take the two fastest available drivers) would be Alonso, but Honda may not be pleased with that and it seems Alonso is still very political (e.g., condemning FIA stewards in the official press conference in Spain) and may cause political troubles with Horner, Marko and Verstappen, Honda and the FIA. So perhaps not the most suitable choice, despite being a very skilled driver.

[silver]

If paid on points, Sergio is just fine compared to being unemployed.

He was almost jobless at the end of 2020 and RB gave him new lease of life. He underperformed last year because of which they lost constructors and kept trust in him. Only this year, he is doing the job. So it's fair that he owes a lot to the team and go with what the team wants.

Perez paid them back in tukey 2021 and abudhabi 2021. His hands made Max WDC basically. He doesnt owe them anything at this stage.

If only you or I would be driving Red Bull team management!

[JordanMugen]

With two RedBulls in front there is no race for the win basically.

Wow. Just wow. So it's OK for Mercedes to not bother to find a suitable equal number one replacement for Rosberg for five whole seasons? To keep Bottas long after it is clear that Bottas is significantly inferior to Rosberg and unlikely to ever win a WDC? To deliberately leave Russell at Williams instead of a timely promotion in 2020 or 2021, even though unlike Bottas, Russell very likely could and would have contended for the 2020 & 2021 WDC?

Red Bull had Ricciardo as equal number one, he left, they tried Gasly, they tried Albon, now they have Perez in a number two role but it's not for lack of trying to find an equal number one. When there is a star of Verstappen or Russell calibre in AlphaTauri they almost certainly WILL be promoted to Red Bull Racing ASAP, no dithering. Perez is an amicable driver who is a good fit for the team in a number two driver role at the moment, Webber settled into a less amicable number two driver role, but Webber was previously an equal number one and DID go for a WDC (and was allowed to, he took it to the last round!) on his more favoured Bridgestone tyres before the change to the Pirelli tyres he didn't like.

[PlatinumZealot]

Bottas got screwed on strategy. Two stopper that backfired.

[ringo]

I'm totally disgusted with these RedBull team orders. It's just so manufactured and fake.. And it's just six races in. Smh.

It's funny how Mercedes fans are more annoyed by the team orders than Red Bull fans! Everyone knows Perez is the number two driver at Red Bull. Red Bull tried to get Russell as equal number one in 2021, but Mercedes wouldn't release the Norfolk ace from contract, so Perez as number two it is.

The only other choice for Red Bull to find an equal number one (which is the ideal scenario, as a team should always take the two fastest available drivers) would be Alonso, but Honda may not be pleased with that and it seems Alonso is still very political (e.g., condemning FIA stewards in the official press conference in Spain) and may cause political troubles with Horner, Marko and Verstappen, Honda and the FIA. So perhaps not the most suitable choice, despite being a very skilled driver.

Redbull has no interest in equal number 1. They would have promoted Gasly a long time ago.
He has done everything to earn another chance in redbull; but they will never allow him to upset Max.
Today Perez deserved the win. Even if it was becausr Max DRS was not working. Perez had the pace and made light work of George.
Redbull curtailed Perez stint and put Max on a faster tyre for the sole purpose of switching the cars.
This is very demotivating for the Driver. No matter how well Perez drives if Max is behind him they will switch the drivers.
Very unfortunate and takes a lot of the fun of watching as many drivers fight for wins this year.
But Perez just has play the role and collect the money. Keep driving till they let you go Checo! Vamos!

[PlatinumZealot]

With two RedBulls in front there is no race for the win basically.

Wow. Just wow. So it's OK for Mercedes to not bother find a suitable equal number one replacement for Rosberg for five whole seasons? To keep Bottas long after it is clear that Bottas is significantly inferior to Rosberg and unlikely to ever win a WDC? To deliberately leave Russell at Williams instead of a timely promotion in 2020 or 2021, even though unlike Bottas, Russell very likely could and would have contended for the 2020 & 2021 WDC?

I don't understand what Mercedes has to do with this?

[101FlyingDutchman]

I'm totally disgusted with these RedBull team orders. It's just so manufactured and fake.. And it's just six races in. Smh.

It's funny how Mercedes fans are more annoyed by the team orders than Red Bull fans! Everyone knows Perez is the number two driver at Red Bull. Red Bull tried to get Russell as equal number one in 2021, but Mercedes wouldn't release the Norfolk ace from contract, so Perez as number two it is.

The only other choice for Red Bull to find an equal number one (which is the ideal scenario, as a team should always take the two fastest available drivers) would be Alonso, but Honda may not be pleased with that and it seems Alonso is still very political (e.g., condemning FIA stewards in the official press conference in Spain) and may cause political troubles with Horner, Marko and Verstappen, Honda and the FIA. So perhaps not the most suitable choice, despite being a very skilled driver.

Redbull has no interest in equal number 1. They would have promoted Gasly a long time ago.
He has done everything to earn another chance in redbull; but they will never allow him to upset Max.
Today Perez deserved the win. Even if it was becausr Max DRS was not working. Perez had the pace and made light work of George.
Redbull curtailed Perez stint and put Max on a faster tyre for the sole purpose of switching the cars.
This is very demotivating for the Driver. No matter how well Perez drives if Max is behind him they will switch the drivers.
Very unfortunate and takes a lot of the fun of watching as many drivers fight for wins this year.
But Perez just has play the role and collect the money. Keep driving till they let you go Checo! Vamos!

Bit like HAM and BOT for years wouldn’t you say? In terms of no 1 and no 2.

Although I wished they let them race today. You can understand the team decision to a degree. I feel for Perez though. Equally he got himself in a car right at the front end of the field. Can’t have it all straight away