2022 - McLaren Formula 1 Team

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I know thats what they say, i just dont buy it, compared to the other midfield teams this car has lost out, not to mention the top teams, so i dont care if they gained a bit in the slow speed, overall this car is a complete turd
Darth-Piekus wrote:
19 Jun 2022, 20:38
As I said according to the rest here their weakness in slow and medium speed corners. All they need now is drag.
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101FlyingDutchman
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SmallSoldier wrote:
19 Jun 2022, 20:42
101FlyingDutchman wrote:
19 Jun 2022, 20:41
Stuck behind Albono. Who is a nightmare on the straights. So that’s NOR race now well and truly skewered. RIC can’t get anywhere near the guys ahead. Tough afternoon
He will make the overtake… But it has to be quick, because the tire advantage won’t last forever
Not happening mate

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Swed3120 wrote:
19 Jun 2022, 20:42
ScottR267 wrote:
19 Jun 2022, 20:41
Swed3120 wrote:
19 Jun 2022, 20:38
Would love to be a fly on the wall in that debrief , pretty sure the words moronic and idiots will be used repeatedly.
Screwing one driver can happen, completely --- both takes a special kind of moron to accomplish
Because they deliberately screwed both drivers intentionally didn’t they?

Only ‘moron’ here is you mate.
Nobody does that intentionally , but it’s still a massive F up on the teams side, did you say the same thing with russel in Bahrain a few years back, it’s not massively difficult to know which tyres to put on a car

I don’t claim to know how to drive a F1 car, but I’m pretty sure I know the difference between yellow and white
But you’re an armchair ‘fan’ (supposedly) who spouts off every weekend with something or other. If only McLaren had your wisdom and knowledge they’d be untouchable…..😂

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101FlyingDutchman wrote:
19 Jun 2022, 20:44
SmallSoldier wrote:
19 Jun 2022, 20:42
101FlyingDutchman wrote:
19 Jun 2022, 20:41
Stuck behind Albono. Who is a nightmare on the straights. So that’s NOR race now well and truly skewered. RIC can’t get anywhere near the guys ahead. Tough afternoon
He will make the overtake… But it has to be quick, because the tire advantage won’t last forever
Not happening mate
I’m afraid you might be right… Still on that half a second gap… Albon doing a very good job out of the last hairpin :(

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SmallSoldier wrote:
19 Jun 2022, 20:47
101FlyingDutchman wrote:
19 Jun 2022, 20:44
SmallSoldier wrote:
19 Jun 2022, 20:42


He will make the overtake… But it has to be quick, because the tire advantage won’t last forever
Not happening mate
I’m afraid you might be right… Still on that half a second gap… Albon doing a very good job out of the last hairpin :(
Writing was on the wall earlier in the race. Albonos traction looked really good on a worn set. This is destroying NOR race completely

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Its seems impossible for Norris to pass Albon even with mediums. I prefer having less speed during slow corners than this deficit in straight line speed. I hope they can find a way to reduce drag this year. And dont repeat those "draggy" pit stops..

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101FlyingDutchman wrote:
19 Jun 2022, 20:49
SmallSoldier wrote:
19 Jun 2022, 20:47
101FlyingDutchman wrote:
19 Jun 2022, 20:44


Not happening mate
I’m afraid you might be right… Still on that half a second gap… Albon doing a very good job out of the last hairpin :(
Writing was on the wall earlier in the race. Albonos traction looked really good on a worn set. This is destroying NOR race completely
The only thing he can do is keep the pressure up and hope that Albon makes a mistake… Interesting bit that I overlooked, with Lando been on his previous engine (the one used for practice sessions), he definitely has a deficit in engine power

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Makes a lot more sense on Norris speed right now , loosing 3 tenths per lap due to an old worn-out engine

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Ok I now have to criticise some of you here. You have to have in mind that there are fans here more passionate than others. That doesn't mean they are armchair fans or plastic fans or whatever you want to call them. Nobody here is an expert of how F1 works or should work but you need to accept that not everyone has the same opinion. It is clear that while the team might have fixed their slow and medium speed weakness the car has gone backwards as they have lots of drag and even have problems in mixed conditions. They have gone backwards compared to the top teams and let a few midfield teams pass them despite Mclaren bringing the largest upgrade package. It's ok to criticise. Everyone here wants to see Mclaren not only first but dominating the field and some of us have become impatient after 1999 and 2008 but it's understandable. That is all.Just don't be a-holes to each other.

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It also seems just hard to overtake today in general… Watching Leclerc in a much superior car to Ocon not able to make the overtake is very telling.

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chrisgr wrote:
19 Jun 2022, 20:52
Its seems impossible for Norris to pass Albon even with mediums. I prefer having less speed during slow corners than this deficit in straight line speed. I hope they can find a way to reduce drag this year. And dont repeat those "draggy" pit stops..
After their whipping in Zandvoort in 2021 Mclaren wanted to address the slow/ medium speed deficit for this season. This misery we are having to endure with no top end speed all season at all tracks needs rewarding with a mega result in the Netherlands :roll:
Just a fan's point of view

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The car is good when you go to a GP that is like Imola, Monaco, Zadvoort,Suzuka, A1 Ring, Hungaroring, Singapore, Mexico, Abu Dhabi. I expect the car to shine there as these places are GPs full of turns with only one or two straights. It is obvious the team has a lot of drag that if they fix they can take the fight to the top. The decifit is all from that.

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DragonSGC wrote:
19 Jun 2022, 18:46
mwillems wrote:
19 Jun 2022, 16:44
DragonSGC wrote:
18 Jun 2022, 23:18


Daniel isnt known as a wet weather driver as Ver, Sai, Ham etc is Norris was excellent in changeable conditions last year so not sure where he would have gotten if he didnt have PU issue but it very much looked like the team was a bit lost in setup tyres just werent there.
Except for Spa and Sochi where he endured a torrid time after poor decisions and overcooking it... :mrgreen:
Both were his errors one of over confidence and the other tunnel vision but in Spa before that moment he was heading for pole, and those I guess are important learning moments for him, how many times has hamilton used China 2007 as a reminder to do or not to do certain things when it gets wet.
You have to hold it together at all times. As Yoda said... Do, or do not, there is no almost on pole. I think that was him.
Give a man a fire, and he will be warm for a night.
Set a man on fire, and he will be warm for the rest of his life.

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Finally an overtake by a McLaren… Dani RIC on a Tsunoda… Small wins, right? :)

Lando’s pace is actually really good so far… 1:17.7 on the last lap compared to high 18’s, low 19’s of the cars in front… Will it be enough?

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We have seen many teams today making small mistakes during pit stops. Not like our disaster but it's something :D