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Valid point. Let's imagine Leclerc in front, flatout being chased by Perez with Max out. No doubt we assumed the Redbull the faster car. Though I think Sainz indeed might have taken a step this weekend.seense wrote: ↑21 Jun 2022, 11:40I think the Ferrari was actually a faster race car in Canada. Usually Verstappen destroys Sainz in the race and battles Leclerc. Sainz matching Verstappen says it all. Wonder how fast Leclerc would have been at the front. Other possibility is that the updated ferrari came a bit more towards Sainz liking, but I believe Leclerc is still faster on Sundays.
Yeah you have been saying that everywhere, but your not right as usual. It might be the best race car in the hands of Verstappen, it is a combination not just the car.ringo wrote: ↑21 Jun 2022, 07:56RB18 is the best race car. I have been saying this from the start of the season.
No point in ferrari's car being able to only win if its on pole. A team literally cuts its chances in half when it must execute absolutely perfectly to stay ahead. Having a car that can race and overtakes gives more strategic and tactical flexibility and thats what the redbull has.
It's not dominant, but it's the best car on a Sunday with the highest chances of winning a race. The Ferrari is quick but unreliable and slow in a straight line. Those key points makes it the least favoured to put up a consistent season.
Didn't Sainz get a free pitstop and new tires? Generally new tires will give an F1 car a significant pace advantage, especially when they can be "consumed" vs old tires.Alexf1 wrote: ↑21 Jun 2022, 15:07If RB were faster then how come Verstappen couldn't increase the gap to Sainz after a few laps in the race and how come Sainz was able to get back into DRS zone again after VER managed to get the gap to over 1 second a few laps after the SC? Ferrari was equal or the faster car this race. Performance difference has been razor thin all season now between the Fer car and the RB18. So the RB18 is anything but the dominant car. It's Fer errors that dominate.
A good, very worthy post PZ, but….PlatinumZealot wrote: ↑22 Jun 2022, 02:21Junior driver suspended for uttering racist slurs in online stream:
https://www.planetf1.com/news/red-bull- ... juri-vips/
Hmm this is not the first driver of theirs uttering racist slurs. Good move to suspend this one right away.
I posted about it on the F2 2022 topic.Stu wrote: ↑22 Jun 2022, 08:00A good, very worthy post PZ, but….PlatinumZealot wrote: ↑22 Jun 2022, 02:21Junior driver suspended for uttering racist slurs in online stream:
https://www.planetf1.com/news/red-bull- ... juri-vips/
Hmm this is not the first driver of theirs uttering racist slurs. Good move to suspend this one right away.
….as it is off topic (not about 2022 Oracle/Red Bill Formula One Team); any further comments within this thread will be deleted.
2nd pitstop of Max was on lap 43 and Sainz on lap 49. Both went to hards which lasted for at least 49 laps as Bottas demonstrated with his only stop on that lap. So not much performance differences to be expected within 6 laps from that tyreDR30 wrote: ↑22 Jun 2022, 00:50Didn't Sainz get a free pitstop and new tires? Generally new tires will give an F1 car a significant pace advantage, especially when they can be "consumed" vs old tires.Alexf1 wrote: ↑21 Jun 2022, 15:07If RB were faster then how come Verstappen couldn't increase the gap to Sainz after a few laps in the race and how come Sainz was able to get back into DRS zone again after VER managed to get the gap to over 1 second a few laps after the SC? Ferrari was equal or the faster car this race. Performance difference has been razor thin all season now between the Fer car and the RB18. So the RB18 is anything but the dominant car. It's Fer errors that dominate.
Then why didnt Sainz win?Alexf1 wrote: ↑21 Jun 2022, 15:07If RB were faster then how come Verstappen couldn't increase the gap to Sainz after a few laps in the race and how come Sainz was able to get back into DRS zone again after VER managed to get the gap to over 1 second a few laps after the SC? Ferrari was equal or the faster car this race. Performance difference has been razor thin all season now between the Fer car and the RB18. So the RB18 is anything but the dominant car. It's Fer errors that dominate.
That was the beauty of Max' driving, he didn't defend fresh air. He was confident and focused enough not to bother moving off line for an approaching Sainz.ringo wrote: ↑23 Jun 2022, 01:52Yes Max drove well, but he didnt even need to defend. Such was the pace in the car at the right parts of the track.
Anyhow Silverstone next. Hard to say who will be quickest, Ferrari though weak engined last year was respectable and almost won, but i beleive this RB team can adapt the car nicely to the characteristics of the track to be in a very strong position.
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Because he couln't get by Max due to having the barndoor fitted on his car: https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/wing ... /10326566/ringo wrote: ↑23 Jun 2022, 01:52Then why didnt Sainz win?Alexf1 wrote: ↑21 Jun 2022, 15:07If RB were faster then how come Verstappen couldn't increase the gap to Sainz after a few laps in the race and how come Sainz was able to get back into DRS zone again after VER managed to get the gap to over 1 second a few laps after the SC? Ferrari was equal or the faster car this race. Performance difference has been razor thin all season now between the Fer car and the RB18. So the RB18 is anything but the dominant car. It's Fer errors that dominate.
