carisi2k wrote: ↑
Fri Jun 24, 2022 10:50 am
Perez, Ricciardo and Ocon said it after Baku and that was more of a problem with the circuit being so bumpy and the high speeds causing constant bottoming even on the cars that don't have porpoising. This also contributed to the 9G or whatever Hamilton was complaining about.
Gasly said it early in the season but in General aside from Baku the AT has overcome the issue.
The Ferrari and Haas are the only ones that still seem to suffer porposing but even then it isn't as severe as what the Merc is suffering from.
The Williams we know has a similar setup to the Merc and also runs low to the ground.
Again we know that the solution is to raise the suspension on the low cars to solve the issues. We know that Red Bull, Mclaren, Alpine and now the Aston Martin with it's new package run much higher then the other cars out there and so the solution is for these other cars to raise there ride height to match the other cars or else put up with putting there drivers through this pain.
You're leaving out Perez comments from earlier races.
It’s when you reach a speed of 300 km/h that the problems start, and these are that you lose visibility when braking or you are unable to position the car correctly.
You're ignoring Gasly's comments in Canada saying action needs to be taken. And the fact the AT was porpoising through the weekend. So no, the issue hasn't been overcome. Would you dispute Gasly's comments?
Ferrari and Haas relative porpoising to the Mercedes is about as relevant as medium or medium rare steak, it's still a steak. Depends how you enjoy your Porpoise.
Suggesting Williams problems are from conceptually running low like Mercedes ignore the fact that teams who didn't run low floor concepts are still porpoising. It's as if it's non existent on non Williams/Mercedes cars, when you directly contradict yourself with Haas and Ferrari.
Mercedes cannot jack up the rear, they tried this and it didn't change the result. They even pushed it to the limit of what the suspension could take and anything other than an overhaul of the rear will simply just exhibit the same behaviour. We saw them do so at various tracks and free practice sessions and exhibit porpoising and being a good 8kmh down on Ferrari/RB down the straights.
So the disingenuous "raise the ass" theorem has been dispelled, but I'm willing to wait for someone with actual F1 technical prowess why Mercedes can simply
raise the rear suspension higher than now, with knock on effect on Gearbox, suspension geometry, implications on tyre use, engine location, the diffuser re-developed, and a host of other "simple" stuff.
All in the budget cap.
Off the shelf and fairly cheap solutions exist, but we dont' want anyone gaining an advantage from it.
No, we prefer to see cars bouncing and drivers "moaning"?
Pablo Clavel, a neurosurgeon specializing in spinal and skeletal structure -
What is certain is that the pilots must continue to train their necks in an intense way. This repeated bouncing at the level of the head can lead to the rupture of the ligaments of the neck or discs over time.