2022 - McLaren Formula 1 Team

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What the ---. That Ferrari might be screwing our points. He might not have enough time to pass both Norris and Alonso. Of course Ricciardo is unable to keep his position.

At least next race is Hungaroring which is a Monaco style race which should suit Mclaren over the midfield.

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mwillems wrote:
24 Jul 2022, 16:09
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24 Jul 2022, 16:05
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24 Jul 2022, 16:01


Seems like it, not going to be able to attack right now. Conserve and attack towards the end and hope Alonso's tyres fall away.
Will the tires last to the end though? They all stopped arguably 6-8 laps earlier than expected for a one stopper.

Lando making a few mistakes in the last couple of laps is allowing Alonso to increase the gap
Lap 18 was earliest window for a 1 stopper, was it one or 2 laps earlier?

Sainz hards were already struggling when he pitted but it may be that if you expect the other teams to stay out then you will stay out.

Then from 6th to 16 the cars are too close because of the safety car, so will anyone risk dropping behind?

It's very far from optimal but the closeness of the middle pack may prevent further pits.
Spot on… And, today there wasn’t enough pace to get Alonso… The Alpine’s were just that bit faster on race pace overall… But, if both cars finish in the Top 10, that’s always a positive.

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Stewards need to be changed with former racing drivers as it's clear they are inconsistent. Somehow Red Bull drivers are forbidden to be penalized.
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Its so annoying that there's such a huge shift between quali and race pace. An ailment that has been present in the last couple of years.

I mean, how do you go from a 0.5s lead on Alonso in quali to a 0.1-0.2s per lap deficit on race pace.

That's a 0.7s swing in performance.

They need to get that sh*t sorted.
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Hoped for safety, got virtual.
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Darth-Piekus wrote:
24 Jul 2022, 16:25
Stewards need to be changed with former racing drivers as it's clear they are inconsistent. Somehow Red Bull drivers are forbidden to be penalized.
What are you on about now?

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ScottR267 wrote:
24 Jul 2022, 16:28
Darth-Piekus wrote:
24 Jul 2022, 16:25
Stewards need to be changed with former racing drivers as it's clear they are inconsistent. Somehow Red Bull drivers are forbidden to be penalized.
What are you on about now?
Perez did the same thing there as Hamilton back in 2008 at Spa but while Hamilton got a penalty in the end, Perez didn't. It's not the first time that Perez escapes a penalty as I remember he never recieved a penalty for throwing Lando off the course in a former GP this year. Let's not talk about golden boy Max.

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Darth-Piekus wrote:
24 Jul 2022, 16:31
ScottR267 wrote:
24 Jul 2022, 16:28
Darth-Piekus wrote:
24 Jul 2022, 16:25
Stewards need to be changed with former racing drivers as it's clear they are inconsistent. Somehow Red Bull drivers are forbidden to be penalized.
What are you on about now?
Perez did the same thing there as Hamilton back in 2008 at Spa but while Hamilton got a penalty in the end, Perez didn't. It's not the first time that Perez escapes a penalty as I remember he never recieved a penalty for throwing Lando off the course in a former GP this year. Let's not talk about golden boy Max.
Perez did nothing wrong….

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He cut the chicane and gained an advantage.

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Emag wrote:
24 Jul 2022, 16:26
Its so annoying that there's such a huge shift between quali and race pace. An ailment that has been present in the last couple of years.

I mean, how do you go from a 0.5s lead on Alonso in quali to a 0.1-0.2s per lap deficit on race pace.

That's a 0.7s swing in performance.

They need to get that sh*t sorted.
Because a Quali focused setup may not be the fastest for the race… If they trimmed the wings to get enough speed during one lap (taking advantage of brand new very sticky tires to navigate the turns), it may hurt you during the race.

Reminds of the MCL33, which most often than not was faster on the race than on Qualy… It simply had more downforce (and the drag that came with it), but the more downforce you have, the faster you are on every turn (the faster you can be while lift and coasting for example).

That’s not taking into account tire life and tire degradation, which would be diminished the less downforce you carry.

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And the better your tyres perform in a race, another strong benefit.

Edit: you mentioned this at the bottom of your post lol
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Places 7 and 9 then. Good race though the Alpines were a little bit faster. We should have the upper hand on Hungaroring and keep bringing upgrades.

How was the drag of the car? Was it reduced today compared to the older set up?
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mwillems wrote:
24 Jul 2022, 16:36
And the better your tyres perform in a race, another strong benefit.

Edit: you mentioned this at the bottom of your post lol
You had to read all of it, lol :)

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On another note Ferrari is pathetic. They are doing what they can to lose even second place. I don't think they will lose it as their car is faster but they are doing what they can to lose everything.

I said it before and I will keep saying it. Mclaren will be champions first and then Ferrari if Ferrari keeps screwing like this.

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Lando kept saying he was Pace 0 all race which meant he had a lot in reserve but simply couldn't close on ALO when it mattered ☹️