2022 Singapore Grand Prix - Marina Bay, Sep 30 - Oct 02

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tpe wrote:
27 Sep 2022, 21:03
I would pleasantly surprised if Ferrari is competitive in Singapore...
No high speed corners or long straights so they can run the car softer to manage the bumps which is where they used to excel. I expect Leclerc to sit on pole.

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AR3-GP wrote:
28 Sep 2022, 17:16
tpe wrote:
27 Sep 2022, 21:03
I would pleasantly surprised if Ferrari is competitive in Singapore...
No high speed corners or long straights so they can run the car softer to manage the bumps which is where they used to excel. I expect Leclerc to sit on pole.
Besides that, after Silverstone updates Mr Elliot said that the bouncing/porpoising issues are long gone now, had I`m not wrong...
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atanatizante wrote:
28 Sep 2022, 22:18
AR3-GP wrote:
28 Sep 2022, 17:16
tpe wrote:
27 Sep 2022, 21:03
I would pleasantly surprised if Ferrari is competitive in Singapore...
No high speed corners or long straights so they can run the car softer to manage the bumps which is where they used to excel. I expect Leclerc to sit on pole.
Besides that, after Silverstone updates Mr Elliot said that the bouncing/porpoising issues are long gone now, had I`m not wrong...
I'm talking about Ferrari.

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Really expecting RedBull to have heavy upgrades here like they always do.
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A thread about Lewis' pole in 2018 including his telemetry and Max's telemetry.
The whole lap was amazing but the greatest part was between turns 7 and 9. Max had his engine cutting but did a great lap too, although even without his engine cutting he wouldn't have been on pole but something lap 0.1 or 0.15 behind instead of 3 tenths :


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looks like there's a real threat of rain on Sunday, and not only the usual showers disappearing in the evening anyway.

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Barcelona wings for everyone as expected.

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Marble wrote:
29 Sep 2022, 08:38
A thread about Lewis' pole in 2018 including his telemetry and Max's telemetry.
The whole lap was amazing but the greatest part was between turns 7 and 9. Max had his engine cutting but did a great lap too, although even without his engine cutting he wouldn't have been on pole but something lap 0.1 or 0.15 behind instead of 3 tenths :

Most overhyped pole lap I've seen maybe ever, it was good, but Verstappen was probably better still. You just can't really do much when you always have to compensate for 0.5s straight line deficit even in singapore of all places.
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Juzh wrote:
29 Sep 2022, 10:50
Marble wrote:
29 Sep 2022, 08:38
A thread about Lewis' pole in 2018 including his telemetry and Max's telemetry.
The whole lap was amazing but the greatest part was between turns 7 and 9. Max had his engine cutting but did a great lap too, although even without his engine cutting he wouldn't have been on pole but something lap 0.1 or 0.15 behind instead of 3 tenths :

Most overhyped pole lap I've seen maybe ever, it was good, but Verstappen was probably better still. You just can't really do much when you always have to compensate for 0.5s straight line deficit even in singapore of all places.
https://i.imgur.com/7DUJ4EM.png
in 2016 singapore quali Nico beat lewis by 0.7 tenth and riccardo by 0.6 tenth , they was not much fanfare or hyping back then.it just show the state of f1 media that its biased.

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Here we go again. More fan / hate s**t and we haven't even got to FP1 yet.
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FIA eases F1 porpoising metric from Singapore GP

Formula 1’s porpoising metric has been tweaked from this weekend’s Singapore Grand Prix to help remove potential problems caused by bumpy tracks, Motorsport.com has learned.

Sep 29, 2022, 11:33 AM

As the result of the extreme bouncing earlier in the season that left drivers complaining about safety implications, the FIA announced ahead of the Canadian Grand Prix that it was introducing an Aerodynamic Oscillation Metric that teams would not be allowed to exceed.

Teams had to ensure that their car was below the maximum bouncing limit over each lap, or there was a risk of them being sanctioned on safety grounds.

In a document sent to teams ahead of the Montreal race, they were warned that breaching the rules would carry the risk of cars being excluded from events.

F1’s head of single seater matters Nikolas Tombazis said in that note: “Any car whose AOM exceeds the stipulated AOM [limit] will be reported to the stewards with the recommendation that they be excluded from the results of the sprint or race."

Following some debate with teams about the implications of the metric, it finally came in to force from the Belgian Grand Prix.

By that stage of the campaign, with teams having a much better understanding of the forces that triggered much of the early season porpoising, no team has fallen foul of the metric so far.
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However, there had been some concern that some of the end of season races on bumpier tracks – including Singapore and Austin – could have triggered particular headaches.
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Should help ferrari and Mercedes in terms of setup compromises. maybe this is why Russell/Merc have been so optimistic coming into this weekend

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It kinda feels like continuous tailoring of the rules/regs whenever it suits best, which starts to become quite silly.

Measuring vertical bouncing was such an important neccessity because drivers would otherwise end up in a vegetative state sooner or later, new year's regulations were changed by 25mm .. and what more.

And yet, when we race a hugely bumpy track with 23 turns for about 2 hrs in the roughest of conditions, suddenly the readings of those sensors should be treated more lenient.

I wonder how much longer I can keep myself interested ..
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Comical if that’s the truth with the metric. Seems absolutely pointless having one.

The GPDA should stand against that. But bet they won’t

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