2022 Japanese Grand Prix - Suzuka, Oct 07 - 09

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Re: 2022 Japanese Grand Prix - Suzuka, Oct 07 - 09

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WTF is Jolyon going on about safety vehicle on the track being unacceptable? It's a red flag...
Race is going to restart.

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6.50am U.K. time re -start.

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mendis wrote:
09 Oct 2022, 07:28
Tvetovnato wrote:
09 Oct 2022, 07:27
Rather than focusing on completely unnecessary things like changing an already exciting Q format, they need to make proper wet weather tyres a TOP priority. It cannot go on like this. Fuji 2007 was worse than this and they could still race without any issues.
Agreed 100%. We are losing the opportunity to see wet races only because Pirelli cannot create good tyres for wet races.
Pirelli isn’t the problem. They can design a tire to do whatever they’re contracted to do.

They are somehow suppose to design tires that are fast, hold up to the weight of the cars, and put on a good show, and really only two of those can exist at one time.

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ispano6 wrote:
09 Oct 2022, 07:36
WTF is Jolyon going on about safety vehicle on the track being unacceptable? It's a red flag...
Race is going to restart.
Supposably Gasly saw one on track while he was circulating around. Sam made up some dumb stuff about how the Japanese do things, as if he is an expert on racing operations there (he’s not), which just got Jolyon fired up more.

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ispano6 wrote:
09 Oct 2022, 07:36
WTF is Jolyon going on about safety vehicle on the track being unacceptable? It's a red flag...
Race is going to restart.
I believe its about when Gasly was going past

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Mansell89 wrote:
09 Oct 2022, 07:32
Fully endorse safety being prioritised, but are we saying the full wet tyre is unsafe for these conditions?
on German Sky Seidl just said that they could probably qualify on Inters in those conditions at the moment, but in the race the problem is a lack of visibility, and with full wets it's even worse, as they come with more spray. He didn't expect the race to continue.

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ispano6 wrote:
09 Oct 2022, 07:36
WTF is Jolyon going on about safety vehicle on the track being unacceptable? It's a red flag...
Race is going to restart.
I think because gasly was on track when there was a tractor ?

Not sure if they've shown a replay of it on main feed:



It is terrible they have learned nothing
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Hoffman900 wrote:
09 Oct 2022, 07:38
mendis wrote:
09 Oct 2022, 07:28
Tvetovnato wrote:
09 Oct 2022, 07:27
Rather than focusing on completely unnecessary things like changing an already exciting Q format, they need to make proper wet weather tyres a TOP priority. It cannot go on like this. Fuji 2007 was worse than this and they could still race without any issues.
Agreed 100%. We are losing the opportunity to see wet races only because Pirelli cannot create good tyres for wet races.
Pirelli isn’t the problem. They can design a tire to do whatever they’re contracted to do.

They are somehow suppose to design tires that are fast, hold up to the weight of the cars, and put on a good show, and really only two of those can exist at one time.
Have they not failed to produce the committed quality in 2019/20, that lead to regulation change cutting downforce for 2021? Even then, Pirelli kept bloating the tyres with higher and higher tyre pressures? Sorry, they have not produced the required quality ever. Even this year, the fronts are not sturdy enough that is causing understeer.
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organic wrote:
09 Oct 2022, 07:41
ispano6 wrote:
09 Oct 2022, 07:36
WTF is Jolyon going on about safety vehicle on the track being unacceptable? It's a red flag...
Race is going to restart.
I think because gasly was on track when there was a tractor ?

Not sure if they've shown a replay of it on main feed:

https://streamable.com/3bf5nv
It wasn't shown and I doubt it will be shown, because that is disgusting from whoever sent the message to the steward. Especially at this track, given the history

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mendis wrote:
09 Oct 2022, 07:42
Hoffman900 wrote:
09 Oct 2022, 07:38
mendis wrote:
09 Oct 2022, 07:28
Agreed 100%. We are losing the opportunity to see wet races only because Pirelli cannot create good tyres for wet races.
Pirelli isn’t the problem. They can design a tire to do whatever they’re contracted to do.

They are somehow suppose to design tires that are fast, hold up to the weight of the cars, and put on a good show, and really only two of those can exist at one time.
Have they not failed to produce the committed quality in 2019/20, that lead to regulation change cutting downforce for 2021? Even then, Pirelli kept bloating the tyres with higher and higher tyre pressures? Sorry, they have not produced the required quality ever. Even this year, the fronts are not sturdy enough that is causing understeer.
There isn’t a manufacturer that wants to touch this ten foot pole. Pirelli is mandated to develop tires that work while also produce a show, meanwhile the FIA does their own thing and continues to make the cars heavier and heavier. The tires can’t be all things.

The downforce change for 2021 was as much about parity among concepts, Pirelli was just the fall guy to hide behind. FIA and even the teams mantra, blame the tires even if it’s really everyone else’s fault or politics.
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I miss Charlie Whiting!

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BlueCheetah66 wrote:
09 Oct 2022, 07:42
organic wrote:
09 Oct 2022, 07:41
ispano6 wrote:
09 Oct 2022, 07:36
WTF is Jolyon going on about safety vehicle on the track being unacceptable? It's a red flag...
Race is going to restart.
I think because gasly was on track when there was a tractor ?

Not sure if they've shown a replay of it on main feed:

https://streamable.com/3bf5nv
It wasn't shown and I doubt it will be shown, because that is disgusting from whoever sent the message to the steward. Especially at this track, given the history
there was a red flag when he passed it, and Gasly going way too fast.

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Yeah, that’s completely out of order.

Understand the need to get cars racing as quickly as possible, but you can’t put that before the safety of the drivers

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Hoffman900 wrote:
09 Oct 2022, 07:40
ispano6 wrote:
09 Oct 2022, 07:36
WTF is Jolyon going on about safety vehicle on the track being unacceptable? It's a red flag...
Race is going to restart.
Supposably Gasly saw one on track while he was circulating around. Sam made up some dumb stuff about how the Japanese do things, as if he is an expert on racing operations there (he’s not), which just got Jolyon fired up more.
Sam's an idiot. He is constantly corrected for saying dumb stuff. I'd rather hear Scarbs in that booth.

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FIA trolling us now...