2022 São Paulo Grand Prix - Interlagos, Nov 11 - 13

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DGP123
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Re: 2022 São Paulo Grand Prix - Interlagos, Nov 11 - 13

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Max said in the pre race the car was **** and the setup was wrong. Had the mindset from the get go. All or nothing as he has nothing to lose. It was 2021 all over again, and rightfully punished.

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Tvetovnato wrote:
13 Nov 2022, 22:14
mzso wrote:
13 Nov 2022, 22:12
So FIA's genius this race:
  • Hamilton causing a collision with a dirty move, Verstappen getting penalty
  • Failing to let Tsunoda go, so he lost a lap to drivers behind him...
Also, in other highlights Verstappen is more of a d*ck than people thought, and Leclerc begging was a tad pitiful.
A dirty move by your own rulebook right?
Well the rules state they need to leave a car's width, and Verstappen was on the edge of the track, Hamilton just drove into him. But of course the FIA keep ignoring their own rules all the time... I remember the run of idiocy in the first races by stroll, when he kept colliding into people and others got punished. This was the same nonsense.

mzso
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littlebigcat wrote:
13 Nov 2022, 22:15
Marko should relegate Verstappen to AT for the last race.
Sitting out the last race and cutting his earnings proportionally would be a better warning.

johnny comelately
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Was there any talk about Russell's car exceeding the bounce limit?

mzso
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johnny comelately wrote:
13 Nov 2022, 22:57
Was there any talk about Russell's car exceeding the bounce limit?
Do they even measure it during the race? If memory serves the FIA accepts a setup before that doesn't exceed the limits and that's that.
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chrisc90
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mzso wrote:
13 Nov 2022, 22:59
johnny comelately wrote:
13 Nov 2022, 22:57
Was there any talk about Russell's car exceeding the bounce limit?
Do they even measure it during the race? If memory serves the FIA accepts a setup before that passes that doesn't exceed the limits and that's that.
Cant see why it shouldnt be. Its a safety thing afterall. Was Russells car bounding a lot?

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AR3-GP wrote:
13 Nov 2022, 22:16
What was the explanation for the Tsunoda unlapping catastrophe?
I'm sure they're still making it up...

Logie
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Happy for Merc, team deffo deserves a race win for the hard work. Car has improved which makes next season looking more like 3 way battle.

Glad Rus got the main race win too, he was on it this weekend.

lol what to say about Max, showing his true colours. Races look he owns the road, dont care about his team mate...

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mzso wrote:
13 Nov 2022, 22:54
Tvetovnato wrote:
13 Nov 2022, 22:14
mzso wrote:
13 Nov 2022, 22:12
So FIA's genius this race:
  • Hamilton causing a collision with a dirty move, Verstappen getting penalty
  • Failing to let Tsunoda go, so he lost a lap to drivers behind him...
Also, in other highlights Verstappen is more of a d*ck than people thought, and Leclerc begging was a tad pitiful.
A dirty move by your own rulebook right?
Well the rules state they need to leave a car's width, and Verstappen was on the edge of the track, Hamilton just drove into him. But of course the FIA keep ignoring their own rules all the time... I remember the run of idiocy in the first races by stroll, when he kept colliding into people and others got punished. This was the same nonsense.
Max admitted that he just drove there knowing that there would be no room.

The stewards stated, quite correctly, that Max hadn't got the move done in T1 and therefore was in no position to expect to take in T2. They said that Hamilton could have given a little more room but that the collision was predominantly Max's fault.

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Poleman
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I don't see the reason why people are surprised about Verstappen.As AMG.Tzan said,he only races Hamilton like that.His beef is with Hamilton and noone else,it has been proven time and time again.Screwing his own race,Hamilton's race and his teammate at the end in a race where points mattered ZERO for him.Noone can deny that he is a great driver but the whole notion that he has matured this year is based largely that he had a car buffer to lean on and he took advantage of it perfectly.If Mercedes was up there since the begining and Hamilton was his competitor,i would bet money that we would have a repeat of 2021.Congrats to Russell for his maiden win,even if people said that he was kind of lucky of the contact between VER and HAM he really drove a solid race ,well deserved.
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MadMax wrote:
13 Nov 2022, 23:02
mzso wrote:
13 Nov 2022, 22:54
Tvetovnato wrote:
13 Nov 2022, 22:14


A dirty move by your own rulebook right?
Well the rules state they need to leave a car's width, and Verstappen was on the edge of the track, Hamilton just drove into him. But of course the FIA keep ignoring their own rules all the time... I remember the run of idiocy in the first races by stroll, when he kept colliding into people and others got punished. This was the same nonsense.
Max admitted that he just drove there knowing that there would be no room.

The stewards stated, quite correctly, that Max hadn't got the move done in T1 and therefore was in no position to expect to take in T2. They said that Hamilton could have given a little more room but that the collision was predominantly Max's fault.
Fair summation imho

johnny comelately
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chrisc90 wrote:
13 Nov 2022, 22:59
mzso wrote:
13 Nov 2022, 22:59
johnny comelately wrote:
13 Nov 2022, 22:57
Was there any talk about Russell's car exceeding the bounce limit?
Do they even measure it during the race? If memory serves the FIA accepts a setup before that passes that doesn't exceed the limits and that's that.
Cant see why it shouldnt be. Its a safety thing afterall. Was Russells car bounding a lot?
Yes

littlebigcat
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Karun Chandok summery of the incident laid the case out quite well, hard to argue with it.

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At when Vettel did it it was for a win.
And in a champioship that was at that stage largely undefined.

This was just adding insult to injury.

AR3-GP
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Lando says that Leclerc should have predicted that Lando would understeer....jesus.

That was fully on Lando. Leclerc was there and he just drove into him.

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