2023 - McLaren Formula 1 Team

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RS200E wrote:
17 Mar 2023, 18:22
I'm a long time supporter but it's amazing that the McLaren threads are always the most popular here when they have hardly done anything interesting in nearly 10 years. Especially with the car. The Honda partnership was the most interesting thing to date in 10 years. Since then it has been downhill in nearly every way, fom management to car design. 1 win and maximum 3rd in the championship. Ron Dennis would have had the team in a better position by now with the Chinese investors that the board hated so much. Imagine the Chinese money + the usual Bahrain money + Honda money + Ron's leadership 😮 Ok him and Whitmarsh messed up believing Honda could step up in such a short time but I'm pretty sure he/they would have put it right before now.

For years te threads have been made up with childish bickering which is the same year after year. Even the mods have given up removing unrelated posts amongst others.

Thankfully something substantially interesting and positive is happening again with the wind tunnel and Norris has become potential championship material. He has been bullish recently. If McLaren don't step up soon he will be gone.
You mean Ron's leadership that practically chased Adrian Newey out of the team, completeley screwed up management of the entire team in 2007 allowing spygate to be a thing, leading to Mercedes dumping McLaren as a works team, and forced Honda to enter sooner than they wanted to thus leading to the biggest decline in the history of the team? Man was good in the '80s and '90s, but acting like he's some kind of McLaren Messiah is utterly silly. If anything he should have been removed entirely from the team sooner than what eventually happened in 2017.

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Heavily compromised soft tyre run. Still NOR is pretty quick except for the last sector

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101FlyingDutchman wrote:Heavily compromised soft tyre run. Still NOR is pretty quick except for the last sector
Q1 is going to be hectic tomorrow if it’s like this


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For sure. Some ridiculous car positioning. Q1 carnage is definitely possible. Maybe an early time set might be the best way to go. S3 seems to be the biggest of struggles for the car

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S3 on the long run is the same. Keeping up with all the guys ahead easily in S1 and S2 but S3 just isn’t there.

VER still doing 35.0 30.0 30.0 after 9 laps. It’s scary how far away we are from them

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101FlyingDutchman wrote:
17 Mar 2023, 19:51
S3 on the long run is the same. Keeping up with all the guys ahead easily in S1 and S2 but S3 just isn’t there.

VER still doing 35.0 30.0 30.0 after 9 laps. It’s scary how far away we are from them
Who are the guys ahead? The whole pack??
Just a fan's point of view

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MrGapes wrote:Straight line speed is definitely better than last year by a good margin, still wouldn't say its the best (they definitely ran more wing than most teams in Bahrain, so definitely some work on the efficiency, that will come with more downforce), but compared to last year where the car had good pace in the corners then lost all its lap time on the straight its certainly a improvement. Jeddah will be interesting, I expect a decent sector 1, the high speed performance is very good on the MCL60, question is how much will they bleed off in sector 3. I'm personally quite optimistic, besides the hairpins and straights I really don't see where else they can lose a large chunk of time.
I did expect it somewhat


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Telemetry will be interesting. Need to see sector 3 compared to the other teams both in the race run and qualifying.

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mwillems
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Engine turned down?
Give a man a fire, and he will be warm for a night.
Set a man on fire, and he will be warm for the rest of his life.

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mwillems wrote:
17 Mar 2023, 20:30
Engine turned down?
such aerodynamics

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Any crazy overreaction?

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Ben1980 wrote:
17 Mar 2023, 20:38
Any crazy overreaction?
In this thread? Surely not...

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Slahinki wrote:
17 Mar 2023, 20:47
Ben1980 wrote:
17 Mar 2023, 20:38
Any crazy overreaction?
In this thread? Surely not...
Assumed not. People are generally very measured.