2022 Aerodynamic Regulations Thread

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I take it with a grain of salt until we see more races. The changes from last year were not that drastic. Floor edge raised (was is +25mm?) and most of the cars are still roughly the same shape they were last year, except for AM.
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More downforce will make cars less racy with each other. No doubt in my mind teams have extracted more downforce this year.
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jjn9128 wrote:
Mon Mar 20, 2023 7:33 pm
More downforce will make cars less racy with each other. No doubt in my mind teams have extracted more downforce this year.
Could the tricks around front wing endplates and outwash be playing a big role with this? Although, RB isn't doing much of that and Max still wasn't cruising through the field, taking his time to overtake on main straight every time.
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Vanja #66 wrote:
Tue Mar 21, 2023 8:17 am
jjn9128 wrote:
Mon Mar 20, 2023 7:33 pm
More downforce will make cars less racy with each other. No doubt in my mind teams have extracted more downforce this year.
Could the tricks around front wing endplates and outwash be playing a big role with this? Although, RB isn't doing much of that and Max still wasn't cruising through the field, taking his time to overtake on main straight every time.
Could be but it would effect the following car, if RB aren't doing it they will still be affected by cars in front who are exploiting it.

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snajam wrote:
Tue Mar 21, 2023 8:32 am
Could be but it would effect the following car, if RB aren't doing it they will still be affected by cars in front who are exploiting it.
Hmmm, not impossible, although from my memory the 2009-2021 cars had a problem with following because their own flow structures broke appart and big driving factors were the front wing vortex structures. So I guess the car that's following is losing still simply because it's following, regardless of what the car ahead is doing with its own flow structures.
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If the cars in front are using tricky endplate designs that create additional outwash, it can intensify the dirty air/aero push where the following car loses grip and has to back off the throttle or take a different line through the corners.
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Thu Mar 23, 2023 10:26 pm
If the cars in front are using tricky endplate designs that create additional outwash, it can intensify the dirty air/aero push where the following car loses grip and has to back off the throttle or take a different line through the corners.
The floor edge is higher too which means it's more likely to suck in dirty air.

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AR3-GP wrote:
Thu Mar 23, 2023 10:59 pm
El_KaPpa wrote:
Thu Mar 23, 2023 10:26 pm
If the cars in front are using tricky endplate designs that create additional outwash, it can intensify the dirty air/aero push where the following car loses grip and has to back off the throttle or take a different line through the corners.
The floor edge is higher too which means it's more likely to suck in dirty air.
Yep, the floor is more susceptible to the disturbance caused by the turbulence or dirty air.
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https://bostondownloads.blob.core.windo ... igital.pdf

How has this changed for 2023? How are they taking the benefit of the compute power of GPUs for Nvidia and AMD?

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Italian Motorsport.com is now reporting that TD39 has been cancelled, as it was rendered redundant by the 2023 technical regulations. https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-ce ... /10448664/
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Sun Mar 26, 2023 10:02 am
Italian Motorsport.com is now reporting that TD39 has been cancelled, as it was rendered redundant by the 2023 technical regulations. https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-ce ... /10448664/
If it is true, that means that do flexible floors can be reintroduced?

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Xwang wrote:
Sun Mar 26, 2023 10:05 am
ScrewCaptain27 wrote:
Sun Mar 26, 2023 10:02 am
Italian Motorsport.com is now reporting that TD39 has been cancelled, as it was rendered redundant by the 2023 technical regulations. https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-ce ... /10448664/
If it is true, that means that do flexible floors can be reintroduced?
No 2023 introduced floor tests formally into the regulation sling with height changes.

The porpoise metric is deemed redundant

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The floor edge was raised for this year as you all know. +15mm iirc. That's about how tall the ice skate was. I read discussion of this rule change being directed at Merc, at Ferrari. Wasn't it more directed at RB to get rid of the ice skate? Considering the dimension involved.
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vorticism wrote:
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The floor edge was raised for this year as you all know. +15mm iirc. That's about how tall the ice skate was. I read discussion of this rule change being directed at Merc, at Ferrari. Wasn't it more directed at RB to get rid of the ice skate? Considering the dimension involved.
The original proposal was 25mm iirc. 15mm was the compromise.

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ScrewCaptain27 wrote:
Sun Mar 26, 2023 10:02 am
Italian Motorsport.com is now reporting that TD39 has been cancelled, as it was rendered redundant by the 2023 technical regulations. https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-ce ... /10448664/
Only the porpoising metric is cancelled essentially. Not a big story