Red Bull RB19

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vorticism wrote:
07 May 2023, 03:12
They are running asymmetrical louver areas apparently.
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vorticism wrote:
14 May 2023, 23:33
vorticism wrote:
07 May 2023, 03:12
They are running asymmetrical louver areas apparently.
https://i.postimg.cc/y8LDsDq1/Screen-Sh ... -26-PM.png
They have experimented with this throughout the season but didn't see it happen at all with the RB18

Here's from preseason
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27 Feb 2023, 20:07
New louvre panels on the top of the sidepod

What I am most interested in is that they experimented with asymmetrical louvre layout, with the sidepod louvres only open on one side.

https://i.imgur.com/BvL94uA.jpeg

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organic wrote:
14 May 2023, 23:54
https://i.postimg.cc/y8LDsDq1/Screen-Sh ... -26-PM.png
They have experimented with this throughout the season but didn't see it happen at all with the RB18
+1 I missed your post on this. Either this is due to greater cooling needs on the right hand rads or it is reflective of track direction and yaw affecting inlet flow; or both. Miami is CCW, f.e., and the additional cooling is accordingly on the RH side.
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organic wrote:
14 May 2023, 02:30

Teams are often offering drivers different deployment maps, sometimes sacrificing laptimes by using less deployment elsewhere to prevent overtakes into particular corners that's correct - in many cases this is done by saving extra energy for the main straight.

However the specific case being referred to is one where s RB had no need to do this sort of adjustment to the deployment. They were in a part of the race where they'd be preventing too much engine wear whilst optimizing laptimes - he was trying to fight verstappen but weren't duelling on track.

Additionally, there'd be no logical reason as a defending car with an overtaking car behind to hold back on deploying energy at the start of the straight to save energy in order to "defend harder at the end of the straight" - again in such a scenario you should deploy maximally from the beginning of the straight.
Totally agree that most is gained by deploying at the start of the the straight, however, optimum strategy further down the straight can still be played with.
Especially when DRS is available, it makes sense to deploy less before DRS opens, where you just burn energy against the high drag. As soon as DRS opens the equation changes and there is more value in deploying again. Given the extreme acceleration of the RB19 when opening DRS, they seem to be doing exactly that.

Without DRS there are still variations possible. Laptime wise a broad flat peak in the speed profile would be optimal, not focusing on peak speed (burning energy) but on a slightly lower sustained speed. However, when defending that would allow for more slipstreaming for the following car. So again focusing everything on the first half of the straight, breaking tow, could be beneficial it seems.

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TimW wrote:
15 May 2023, 08:54
organic wrote:
14 May 2023, 02:30

Teams are often offering drivers different deployment maps, sometimes sacrificing laptimes by using less deployment elsewhere to prevent overtakes into particular corners that's correct - in many cases this is done by saving extra energy for the main straight.

However the specific case being referred to is one where s RB had no need to do this sort of adjustment to the deployment. They were in a part of the race where they'd be preventing too much engine wear whilst optimizing laptimes - he was trying to fight verstappen but weren't duelling on track.

Additionally, there'd be no logical reason as a defending car with an overtaking car behind to hold back on deploying energy at the start of the straight to save energy in order to "defend harder at the end of the straight" - again in such a scenario you should deploy maximally from the beginning of the straight.
Totally agree that most is gained by deploying at the start of the the straight, however, optimum strategy further down the straight can still be played with.
Especially when DRS is available, it makes sense to deploy less before DRS opens, where you just burn energy against the high drag. As soon as DRS opens the equation changes and there is more value in deploying again. Given the extreme acceleration of the RB19 when opening DRS, they seem to be doing exactly that.

Without DRS there are still variations possible. Laptime wise a broad flat peak in the speed profile would be optimal, not focusing on peak speed (burning energy) but on a slightly lower sustained speed. However, when defending that would allow for more slipstreaming for the following car. So again focusing everything on the first half of the straight, breaking tow, could be beneficial it seems.
the sound of the honda pu changes when drs is opened it sound like its being pushed harder or maybe deploying ers also charge sound of engine.

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A slightly different angle of sidepods.

These are very nice shipping carriers as well...I think...

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naked

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Less obstructed naked pic. Can see with particular detail the rear brake duct winglets

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RB19 floor!!!



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Tunnels look kind of concave.

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quite similar to last year

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We are getting floor

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FEED US Checo =D>
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As a fan I'm disappointed in him, but I am ready for these pics

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Awaiting for more pics of the RB floor!

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