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You can bring up the examples of flexi wings, CVT, active suspension and ground effect or egyption pyramids. I gave you examples of F1 today.ISLAMATRON wrote:stuff...
Enough said. If it wins this years championships, probably several major sponsors...timbo wrote:There's a rumor that Virgin would be title sponsor for Manor.
Can anyone confirm it?
Who's gotta be with Brawn?
Seems like very good business to me. Think about it. While Brawn fights with Red Bull for this years championship, all the big teams will be developing their cars for next year - exactly as Honda/Brawn did last year. In light of this, the odds of Brawn repeating their 2009 success in 2010 suddenly seem pretty slim. If Brawn ends up a backmarker in 2010, why would you want to pay top dollar now for a team that will likely be mid-field next year. You may as well pay second-tier prices to advertise on a second-tier team.Conceptual wrote:If it wins this years championships, probably several major sponsors...timbo wrote:There's a rumor that Virgin would be title sponsor for Manor.
Can anyone confirm it?
Who's gotta be with Brawn?
I must say that Sir Richard disappoints me. He steps in at a rediculously easy time, and has his logo on a car that he paid nothing for for 6 of the first 7 victories of this season, and now that Brawn actually want some serious money, he bails.
Sir Richard, you are a f*cking pussy!
Maybe the possibility to have some teams or all the teams to run even a third car, to have more possibility to overtake – but increasing technology research, extreme performance and overall competition.”
Does that mean that Ferrari will still have special rule making priviledges which are not equally shared with other teams?I asked yesterday whether Ferrari still has the right of veto over rule changes and the answer is “yes”.
You have all the right to have that opinion but not to call other fans blind (like you just did). Many fans wathed Max destroying Formula1 for several years. F1 is nearly dead now. 2010 plan was to finalize the process. Luckily it didn't work out.ISLAMATRON wrote:at least Max is an ass with a plan to improve F1
Pure speculation and a little paranoid to boot. Those evil F1 teams! Why do you even follow F1 if you think the whole thing is such a sham?WhiteBlue wrote:At the moment the rules for new teams are completely up in the air. There is no budget cap, so they can be outspend by any amount of money. The promised technical help can be made conditional to purchasing an engine/gearbox package from a FOTA manufacturer. Rules of engine "equalization" can be tweaked to push their supplier Cosworth out of F1 and FOTA has the option to tweak all the rule making against them. Even Williams have asked for legally binding conditions for them but nothing has been heard.
All I have heared was a comment that some may not be able to compete and others may get "invited". I do not even know if FOTA intends to hear them on any issues prior to the begin of the 2010 championship. They could be holding internal meetings to set their voting agenda and block vote everything through the F1 commission. It all sounds like they would prefer a bunch of B-teams which they can boss around or third cars from the rich teams.
Those may be worst case possibilities but the longer it takes to confirm what the FOTA intends to do with the new teams the more damage it will do to their finances. So a fair deal should be put together ASAP to demonstrate good intentions. The ball certainly is in the FOTA court because their proposal for 2010 rules was accepted over the FIA rules. So it is now their responsibility to make those teams as viable as they would have been under FIA rules. If they abuse the agreement to sink the new teams we know that they cannot be trusted.
Since when have we agreed to outlaw speculation. A bit of it is usefull to highlight the tendencies of F1 politics and warn about negative developments. Plus, there isn't 100% speculation in my posts. I have given some solid quotes in this thread that give rise to concern. I do not think that teams are evil and F1 is a sham, that was your contribution.FGD wrote:Pure speculation and a little paranoid to boot. Those evil F1 teams! Why do you even follow F1 if you think the whole thing is such a sham?
Your speculative comments suggesting FOTA teams will conspire against independent teams is baseless. After all, were it not for Renault, Mercedes, Ferrari and Toyota there would be no independent teams in F1 today. What’s more, Brawn, Red Bull and Williams are all as competitive and, as we’ve seen from Red Bull and Brawn this year, significantly more successful than their factory partners.WhiteBlue wrote:Since when have we agreed to outlaw speculation. A bit of it is usefull to highlight the tendencies of F1 politics and warn about negative developments. Plus, there isn't 100% speculation in my posts. I have given some solid quotes in this thread that give rise to concern. I do not think that teams are evil and F1 is a sham, that was your contribution.FGD wrote:Pure speculation and a little paranoid to boot. Those evil F1 teams! Why do you even follow F1 if you think the whole thing is such a sham?
One last thing. Do not speculate about the mental health of fellow users. It is rude, cheap and will not endear you to your peers here. If you feel compelled to make derogatory comments it would be better to refrain from it. Be a bit whitty and use facts to make your point. I invite you explicitly to alleviate my concerns about FOTA abusing their rule making power to manipulate the entry of the confirmed new teams. Please tell us the facts that can make those guys sleep easy and untroubled.