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Good spot. Verstappen's wing is indeed cut deeper. Actually both steps are deeper than perez' straight cut. Second cut on verstappen's car is visibly lower. Must be the reason for that strange looking DRS support in the middle.
Didn't seem to help verstappen much in passing sainz.. Perez had pretty much same top speeds everywhere. Must be DRS effect was equal on both cars.
Good spot. Verstappen's wing is indeed cut deeper. Actually both steps are deeper than perez' straight cut. Second cut on verstappen's car is visibly lower. Must be the reason for that strange looking DRS support in the middle.
Didn't seem to help verstappen much in passing sainz.. Perez had pretty much same top speeds everywhere. Must be DRS effect was equal on both cars.
It's usually assumed that Verstappen has more front flap angle which is draggier. We've seen a season long trend usually when they both have the same rear wing, that Perez is typically about 2km/h quicker on the longer straights.
There's nothing in the regs to stop rake from increasing in coming seasons. I wonder if that could be a scope of development once floors are fully sorted.
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Could that be just a difference of rear load to help give Perez some confidence in the car? A little more rear end for Perez compared to Max. Max then also running a touch more front wing to give the front end that maximises the car.
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Could that be just a difference of rear load to help give Perez some confidence in the car? A little more rear end for Perez compared to Max. Max then also running a touch more front wing to give the front end that maximises the car.
Yeah I think in this case that's very likely it's mostly down to driver feel
Expect next update in singapore then. Cheers Marko.
Considering the general trend with high df wings up and down the field I'm going to assume that these new endplate styles are the way forward, at least for low efficiency tracks. Singapore's one of those and I feel this sort of endplate trick could be easily/cheaply be copied by RB for their next upgrades. Wouldn't expect much from the Singapore upgrade apart from that
Expect next update in singapore then. Cheers Marko.
Considering the general trend with high df wings up and down the field I'm going to assume that these new endplate styles are the way forward, at least for low efficiency tracks. Singapore's one of those and I feel this sort of endplate trick could be easily/cheaply be copied by RB for their next upgrades. Wouldn't expect much from the Singapore upgrade apart from that
Expect next update in singapore then. Cheers Marko.
Considering the general trend with high df wings up and down the field I'm going to assume that these new endplate styles are the way forward, at least for low efficiency tracks. Singapore's one of those and I feel this sort of endplate trick could be easily/cheaply be copied by RB for their next upgrades. Wouldn't expect much from the Singapore upgrade apart from that
Marko mentioned rb's only upgrade would come at Singapore. I suspect it will be rear wing endplates and a floor edge tweak
Has the boss that holds the flap pivot always been oriented sideways like that?
OK bear with i investigated:
sideways
Bahrain 2023:
Baku
Monaco
Barcelona
Canada,Austria - sideways as before
Silverstone
Hungary - it changes
So for Hungary it changes to a diagonal orientation for the DRS flap pivots but only for the high DF wing. The low DF wing at Monza still had horizontal pivots. [1][2]
At Zandvoort and now for Singapore they have the diagonal pivots