To my knowledge they use line scan cameras (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line-scan_camera) for this. So it is a line scan of the finish line, that scans the cars passing.Farnborough wrote: ↑06 Nov 2023, 10:50No, it's a real image, could be called "sureal" as finish line camera equipment has always produced such images. Effectively it "inverts" our conventional thinking of photography by moving the camera recording device/media with the moving subject (while the device itself stays still and at 90 degree to subject).....making it look static....while letting the track surface move in relation to that image device, colour purity of static surface is sacrificed often to facilitate correct exposure of moving target.Andres125sx wrote: ↑06 Nov 2023, 10:24Except that is not a photo finish, but a render.search wrote: ↑06 Nov 2023, 10:13
so you really think they rigged the photo finish?!
It looks absolutely the same from Perez' onboard.
https://i.imgur.com/jmFMZQs.png
Asphalt is not that colorful, and those horizontal lines, drawn to show movement, are completely artificial
Probably drawn with real data, but that is not a photo finish
It used to be done with film cameras by moving the film laterally at the same speed as target, but likely electronic sampling now from a static image plane device.
Looks distorted, but is a true image. A specialised area of imaging thats pretty unique.
"one of those" is actually vast majority of cases, and it is this way because actual start finish line (the control line) is aligned with pit entry. On some track this line is a loong way before the grid.
yup. i think the only tracks in recent years that have a very long straight to the control line is australia, paul ricard and portimao (correct me if im wrong)
Guys, a car doing 300 km/h travels about 4,5 m in 0.053s. It's basic physics. Render or not it was just a bit less than a car length.Andres125sx wrote: ↑06 Nov 2023, 10:24Except that is not a photo finish, but a render.search wrote: ↑06 Nov 2023, 10:13so you really think they rigged the photo finish?!
It looks absolutely the same from Perez' onboard.
https://i.imgur.com/jmFMZQs.png
Asphalt is not that colorful, and those horizontal lines, drawn to show movement, are completely artificial
Probably drawn with real data, but that is not a photo finish
its only melbourne. portimao is before the grid, and paul ricard is strangely enough further ahead than the grid itselfcplchanb wrote: ↑06 Nov 2023, 19:19yup. i think the only tracks in recent years that have a very long straight to the control line is australia, paul ricard and portimao (correct me if im wrong)
I wouldn't be reading too much into that. Hamilton is often disagreeing with himself even, switching between complaining that the car is sh*t, and they can't wait to see it off at the end of the season, and at the same time saying he's still aiming to win a race in 2023 (this was of course before the Brazil disaster).CHT wrote: ↑07 Nov 2023, 03:19Having Toto and LH dissing the W14 during post-race interviews is certainly not helpful and it could even be bad for the morale of people working at the factory. Though not winning the championship, Merc should at least finish 2nd in the WCC, and of course, Toto will credit that to LH driving the W14.
I have to say that Merc is going through uncharted territory at the moment and neither Toto nor LH have actually gone through such a long winless dry spell. As captain of the team, Toto will need to demonstrate some calm and patience instead of pushing the team members to deliver the impossible all for the sake of 1 driver's dream and glory of 8th WDC.TFSA wrote: ↑07 Nov 2023, 03:57I wouldn't be reading too much into that. Hamilton is often disagreeing with himself even, switching between complaining that the car is sh*t, and they can't wait to see it off at the end of the season, and at the same time saying he's still aiming to win a race in 2023 (this was of course before the Brazil disaster).CHT wrote: ↑07 Nov 2023, 03:19Having Toto and LH dissing the W14 during post-race interviews is certainly not helpful and it could even be bad for the morale of people working at the factory. Though not winning the championship, Merc should at least finish 2nd in the WCC, and of course, Toto will credit that to LH driving the W14.
It just seems to me like Mercedes is in no-mansland right now. But the point I'm making is: Don't take anything they say at face value.
Wich is the reason I said it´s probably drawn with real data.piast9 wrote: ↑06 Nov 2023, 22:08Guys, a car doing 300 km/h travels about 4,5 m in 0.053s. It's basic physics. Render or not it was just a bit less than a car length.Andres125sx wrote: ↑06 Nov 2023, 10:24Except that is not a photo finish, but a render.search wrote: ↑06 Nov 2023, 10:13
so you really think they rigged the photo finish?!
It looks absolutely the same from Perez' onboard.
https://i.imgur.com/jmFMZQs.png
Asphalt is not that colorful, and those horizontal lines, drawn to show movement, are completely artificial
Probably drawn with real data, but that is not a photo finish
After watching multiple failed attempts, Red Bull began coaching Perez in his attack.
Here are some of the key messages between Hugh Bird (Perez’s race engineer) and the 6-time race winner:
Bird: “Try a bit wider at the apex, Turn 12. Wait for traction, get that exit.
Bird: “Follow Fernando’s line, Turn 10 and Turn 12.
Perez: “No. If I follow his line, I get into the dirty air.”
Bird: “Okay, well focus on the exit of 12. Give up a bit on the entry, focus on the exit.”