Meh. It still looks overly contrived.
Cost cap and open the regs. That was the plan (2010 anyways). These SUV hybrids are just not interesting beyond the aero trickery.
Let the war happen. The CAP solves the only problem with that.
They are trying to make the cars so they can race close together.
It solves one of many problems...
Available power is reduced above 300km/h (186mph) from ~750kW (~1,005hp) to ~550kW (~738hp) at 340km/h (211mph).Tommy Cookers wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 5:17 pmF1 etc had both passive and simple active wing systems in 1967
do we now get instant 'unlimited' DF' regardless of drag or instant 'unlimited' drag regardless of DF ?
250 mph then 8g braking ?
I think they aim for 3 at least positions - cornering (high drag), straights ("medium" drag) and DRS (low drag). There was also talk of additional downforce for the following car in corners, so kind of opposite of DRS - so maybe even 4 positions. Also let's not forget constantly variable aero was also in the mix, which I honestly hope will not happen.
Front wing endplates are tall to avoid generating strong wing-tip vortices which directly influence the car behind. Also, teams with more resources have shown to be able to exploit these vortices a lot better than others.FW17 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 10:11 amWhat ever do they have against straight wings and endplates? It looks so wrong (did the formula e team get involved in this render)
https://collectingcars.imgix.net/009872 ... =srgb&q=85
If they need to go low drag, they need some flip up in front of the rear wheel
https://cdn-0.motorsport.com/static/img ... ning-a.jpg
It is not the height of the end plate, but the inclination of the endplate. What ever they want to do with regards to vortex generation is fine, but keep it simple and straight with a profile in only one axis and not 2Vanja #66 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 1:51 pmFront wing endplates are tall to avoid generating strong wing-tip vortices which directly influence the car behind. Also, teams with more resources have shown to be able to exploit these vortices a lot better than others.FW17 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 10:11 amWhat ever do they have against straight wings and endplates? It looks so wrong (did the formula e team get involved in this render)
https://collectingcars.imgix.net/009872 ... =srgb&q=85
If they need to go low drag, they need some flip up in front of the rear wheel
https://cdn-0.motorsport.com/static/img ... ning-a.jpg
Indeed, some bodywork in front of the rear wheel would go a long way in sorting out the rear wheel drag, as well as providing good basis for better performance in keeping the dirty air away from diffuser.
I honestly don't think either detail should be taken too much into accoutn, it's AMuS rendering after all. Front wing sweep may survive, although it's a very silly detail. It may be something for the "new" fans, it looks fastFW17 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 2:44 pmIt is not the height of the end plate, but the inclination of the endplate. What ever they want to do with regards to vortex generation is fine, but keep it simple and straight with a profile in only one axis and not 2
https://imgr1.auto-motor-und-sport.de/F ... 054661.jpg
https://o.aolcdn.com/images/dims?image_ ... d7acdbe077
The other issue which i have issue is the continuing swept back concept of the front wing, what does it add? the old man had this dumb idea for 2017 and we know every idea in that car destroyed F1 and they are working to undo all of them.
https://cdn-1.motorsport.com/static/img ... 15-car.jpg
It is swept
Thank you, I also think they sweep the wings because it looks better.wogx wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 11:04 pmIt is swept
https://imgr1.auto-motor-und-sport.de/F ... 053596.jpg