2023 Scuderia AlphaTauri F1 Team

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Iwasa and Yuki.

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Max and Checo arrived at Narita International Airport a few hours ago. Ricciardo I don't know.

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Motegi today:

Nojiri (SF) was watching when Iwasa tested the car:



Yuki was testing the car:



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runningmanz wrote:
Tue Nov 28, 2023 11:16 pm
McLaren said AT was the fastest through the slow corners at Abu Dhabi. If they can sort the top speed out for a start the car will be really strong next year at many tracks. Excited to see how the team goes next season.

"In Abu Dhabi last weekend, McLaren Team Principal Andrea Stella remarked that according to their data, the fastest car through the slow corners was the AlphaTauri."

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... UGUhz.html

Just to add too they already had push rod rear and now the same as RBR since Singapore but apparently the front will be pull rod too like RBR and McLaren. From article in April this year

"Cooperationwith Red Bull Racing will be intensified, team boss Franz Tost said last week. AlphaTauri will reportedly use at least the big brother's front suspension in 2024. This is a fairly major intervention and a significant change to the concept of the car, as the current number nine among the constructors currently uses a conventional pushrod front suspension, while Red Bull's is pullrod."

https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/196519/a ... -2024.html

Again lots to be excited for next year!
if they use redbull suspension at the front they may have problems that plagued redbull like tire warm up issues and will be poor in slow track like singapore and loose the advantage they have .alpha tauri need to fucus on their top speed and
aero drag

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Yeah not sure with that. The RBR is still the best car overall though so it still may not be a bad road to go down in development

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runningmanz wrote:
Tue Nov 28, 2023 11:16 pm
McLaren said AT was the fastest through the slow corners at Abu Dhabi. If they can sort the top speed out for a start the car will be really strong next year at many tracks. Excited to see how the team goes next season.

"In Abu Dhabi last weekend, McLaren Team Principal Andrea Stella remarked that according to their data, the fastest car through the slow corners was the AlphaTauri."

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... UGUhz.html

Just to add too they already had push rod rear and now the same as RBR since Singapore but apparently the front will be pull rod too like RBR and McLaren. From article in April this year

"Cooperationwith Red Bull Racing will be intensified, team boss Franz Tost said last week. AlphaTauri will reportedly use at least the big brother's front suspension in 2024. This is a fairly major intervention and a significant change to the concept of the car, as the current number nine among the constructors currently uses a conventional pushrod front suspension, while Red Bull's is pullrod."

https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/196519/a ... -2024.html

Again lots to be excited for next year!
Alpha tauri is not the fastest in slow corners ,its not better than ferrari or merc .mclaren are on a smear campaign to undermine redbull alpha cooperation.they are not the only one complaining.

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Bill wrote:
Sat Dec 09, 2023 6:26 am
runningmanz wrote:
Tue Nov 28, 2023 11:16 pm
McLaren said AT was the fastest through the slow corners at Abu Dhabi. If they can sort the top speed out for a start the car will be really strong next year at many tracks. Excited to see how the team goes next season.

"In Abu Dhabi last weekend, McLaren Team Principal Andrea Stella remarked that according to their data, the fastest car through the slow corners was the AlphaTauri."

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... UGUhz.html

Just to add too they already had push rod rear and now the same as RBR since Singapore but apparently the front will be pull rod too like RBR and McLaren. From article in April this year

"Cooperationwith Red Bull Racing will be intensified, team boss Franz Tost said last week. AlphaTauri will reportedly use at least the big brother's front suspension in 2024. This is a fairly major intervention and a significant change to the concept of the car, as the current number nine among the constructors currently uses a conventional pushrod front suspension, while Red Bull's is pullrod."

https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/196519/a ... -2024.html

Again lots to be excited for next year!
Alpha tauri is not the fastest in slow corners ,its not better than ferrari or merc .mclaren are on a smear campaign to undermine redbull alpha cooperation.they are not the only one complaining.
Weren't Mercedes and Ferrari supposed to be fastest in slow corners since like after summer break?
Odd quote from Stella to say AT were fastest in slow corners.

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Bill wrote:
Sat Dec 09, 2023 6:26 am
runningmanz wrote:
Tue Nov 28, 2023 11:16 pm
McLaren said AT was the fastest through the slow corners at Abu Dhabi. If they can sort the top speed out for a start the car will be really strong next year at many tracks. Excited to see how the team goes next season.

"In Abu Dhabi last weekend, McLaren Team Principal Andrea Stella remarked that according to their data, the fastest car through the slow corners was the AlphaTauri."

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... UGUhz.html

Just to add too they already had push rod rear and now the same as RBR since Singapore but apparently the front will be pull rod too like RBR and McLaren. From article in April this year

"Cooperationwith Red Bull Racing will be intensified, team boss Franz Tost said last week. AlphaTauri will reportedly use at least the big brother's front suspension in 2024. This is a fairly major intervention and a significant change to the concept of the car, as the current number nine among the constructors currently uses a conventional pushrod front suspension, while Red Bull's is pullrod."

https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/196519/a ... -2024.html

Again lots to be excited for next year!
Alpha tauri is not the fastest in slow corners ,its not better than ferrari or merc .mclaren are on a smear campaign to undermine redbull alpha cooperation.they are not the only one complaining.
Towards the end of the year AT were the fastest in the slow corners. Look at telemetry of ricciardo at Mexico, tsunoda at Brazil. Their car had been good in slow speed all season but they really improved a lot over the season and especially after taking RB19 rear suspension at Singapore. By the end of the year they were great in low and medium speed and okay at high speed and on the straights.

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organic wrote:
Sat Dec 09, 2023 11:32 am
Bill wrote:
Sat Dec 09, 2023 6:26 am
runningmanz wrote:
Tue Nov 28, 2023 11:16 pm
McLaren said AT was the fastest through the slow corners at Abu Dhabi. If they can sort the top speed out for a start the car will be really strong next year at many tracks. Excited to see how the team goes next season.

"In Abu Dhabi last weekend, McLaren Team Principal Andrea Stella remarked that according to their data, the fastest car through the slow corners was the AlphaTauri."

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... UGUhz.html

Just to add too they already had push rod rear and now the same as RBR since Singapore but apparently the front will be pull rod too like RBR and McLaren. From article in April this year

"Cooperationwith Red Bull Racing will be intensified, team boss Franz Tost said last week. AlphaTauri will reportedly use at least the big brother's front suspension in 2024. This is a fairly major intervention and a significant change to the concept of the car, as the current number nine among the constructors currently uses a conventional pushrod front suspension, while Red Bull's is pullrod."

https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/196519/a ... -2024.html

Again lots to be excited for next year!
Alpha tauri is not the fastest in slow corners ,its not better than ferrari or merc .mclaren are on a smear campaign to undermine redbull alpha cooperation.they are not the only one complaining.
Towards the end of the year AT were the fastest in the slow corners. Look at telemetry of ricciardo at Mexico, tsunoda at Brazil. Their car had been good in slow speed all season but they really improved a lot over the season and especially after taking RB19 rear suspension at Singapore. By the end of the year they were great in low and medium speed and okay at high speed and on the straights.
i dont need telemetry to spot bs.the only reason they were quick at those high altitude track is because of Honda their pu doesn't require special cooling so AT didn't have to open the bodywork so they maintained pace they got.the honda pu doesn't lose power also at high altitude.alpha was obliterated in vegas and ric couldn't repeat the heroics of mexico in abu dhabi despite upgrade.yuki usually goes well in abu dhabi so that pretty much the explanation why they were competitive there

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organic wrote:
Sat Dec 09, 2023 11:32 am
Bill wrote:
Sat Dec 09, 2023 6:26 am
runningmanz wrote:
Tue Nov 28, 2023 11:16 pm
McLaren said AT was the fastest through the slow corners at Abu Dhabi. If they can sort the top speed out for a start the car will be really strong next year at many tracks. Excited to see how the team goes next season.

"In Abu Dhabi last weekend, McLaren Team Principal Andrea Stella remarked that according to their data, the fastest car through the slow corners was the AlphaTauri."

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... UGUhz.html

Just to add too they already had push rod rear and now the same as RBR since Singapore but apparently the front will be pull rod too like RBR and McLaren. From article in April this year

"Cooperationwith Red Bull Racing will be intensified, team boss Franz Tost said last week. AlphaTauri will reportedly use at least the big brother's front suspension in 2024. This is a fairly major intervention and a significant change to the concept of the car, as the current number nine among the constructors currently uses a conventional pushrod front suspension, while Red Bull's is pullrod."

https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/196519/a ... -2024.html

Again lots to be excited for next year!
Alpha tauri is not the fastest in slow corners ,its not better than ferrari or merc .mclaren are on a smear campaign to undermine redbull alpha cooperation.they are not the only one complaining.
Towards the end of the year AT were the fastest in the slow corners. Look at telemetry of ricciardo at Mexico, tsunoda at Brazil. Their car had been good in slow speed all season but they really improved a lot over the season and especially after taking RB19 rear suspension at Singapore. By the end of the year they were great in low and medium speed and okay at high speed and on the straights.
i dont need telemetry to spot bs.the only reason they were quick at those high altitude track is because of Honda their pu doesn't require special cooling so AT didn't have to open the bodywork so they maintained pace they got.the honda pu doesn't lose power also at high altitude.alpha was obliterated in vegas and ric couldn't repeat the heroics of mexico in abu dhabi despite upgrade.yuki usually goes well in abu dhabi so that pretty much the explanation why they were competitive there

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https://formu1a.uno/l-alphatauri-2024-a ... -pull-rod/
[Mintzlaff], together with the new board of directors, not only rejected an offer close to a billion dollars for the sale of the team, but he relaunched by taking away a certain influence from Horner and Marko , both on the technical and sporting sides ( Red Bull Junior Team). All this while trying to give more importance to the Faenza team also in terms of investments .
The first Racing Bulls , with the RB19's pull-rod front suspension, will have a slightly lower front center of gravity and a significantly revised chassis . The body, in addition to being prepared with new attachments to house the new suspension layout and the related steering column, will have a more "keel" shape in the lower front section, just like the RB19.

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The 2024 F1 entry list should be out any day now, say maybe we'll see the new team name. Or maybe we'll get "TBA" or some such nonsense :-)

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A member from the Autosport forum wrote:

AT dude (was it Peter Bayer?) said on ServusTV's Hangar 7 Talk (or whatever the show is called) a few days ago,
their new name will be announced in January. ServusTV is Redbull's very own TV station.

Did anyone see the show? @Lio007 maybe?
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I've watched it online a few minutes ago:
# there are some engineers joining AT from rival teams next year (although PB refused to tell any details)
# construction work for the new aero performance center in Milton Keynes is ongoing
# production, finance and so on stays in Faenza, development work will mainly done in UK
# there will be a new title sponsor, but right now PB can not mention any details because of final discussions. The name will very likely be released at the end of January

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lio007 wrote:
Thu Dec 14, 2023 12:41 pm
I've watched it online a few minutes ago:
# there are some engineers joining AT from rival teams next year (although PB refused to tell any details)
# construction work for the new aero performance center in Milton Keynes is ongoing
# production, finance and so on stays in Faenza, development work will mainly done in UK
# there will be a new title sponsor, but right now PB can not mention any details because of final discussions. The name will very likely be released at the end of January
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Thank you. 👍

At the end of ........ pfff. So more than another month waiting.
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