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The cockpit position, or better say the monocoque geometry chosen by RB, influences and interacts with many things, even the SIPS position, and including the forward section of the boat (it's the middle section that is baggy)... it's a whole ecosystem that RB exploits fully and completes it with some unique packaging tricks : )

And we didnt need to wait until monaco 2023 to see that floor. In Melbourne 2022 we saw this
https://i.imgur.com/LGvSpN7.jpg
And in Imola 2022 we saw it again thanks to Perez again.

@Venkyhere, the floor design is another subject. The tweet is about the foundations behind it: how the chassis is laid out and how the car is packaged...


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Blackout wrote:
Sat Feb 10, 2024 8:54 pm

And we didnt need to wait until monaco 2023 to see that floor. In Melbourne 2022 we saw this
https://i.imgur.com/LGvSpN7.jpg
And in Imola 2022 we saw it again thanks to Perez again.
I knew of the Australia photo at the time but didn't post it to stay in Adrian's good graces.

It doesn't seem that too many people saw the Melbourne photo because there was a great hullabaloo about Monaco. At times I feel F1 is theater. Any serious F1 team would have dissected the RB long before Monaco.

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Vanja #66 wrote:
Sat Feb 10, 2024 8:15 pm
Not sure why people are still obssessing with boat section width, it's been much wider than the tub on every car since 2022, it's how you introduce lateral curvature to the floor and maximise the suction on the floor roof. Cockpit (and roll hoop) being fore or aft does not influence this, but if I recall it does influence the leading edge of the floor and Mercedes wanted to maximise floor length by pushing the cockpit forward
Mercedes went on full attack with their concept - "maximise everything" and then kept peeling the onion over two years to dial back piece by piece, which predictably led to the conclusion 'we started wrongly'.
RedBull went the other way - held it back to begin with, and then slowly 'added' performance.

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According to racingnews365, the RB20 has a shakedown today at Silverstone
Max Verstappen will shake down Red Bull's new F1 title challenger at Silverstone on Tuesday, RacingNews365 has learned.
https://racingnews365.com/verstappen-in ... w-red-bull

I am aware Max and Perez are in the country and yesterday they were running the rb19 at Silverstone, so I could see it being likely

13th Feb also matches up with the previous info that RB would be doing a shakedown to select guests for charity on this date


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organic wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2024 8:37 am
According to racingnews365, the RB20 has a shakedown today at Silverstone
Max Verstappen will shake down Red Bull's new F1 title challenger at Silverstone on Tuesday, RacingNews365 has learned.
https://racingnews365.com/verstappen-in ... w-red-bull

I am aware Max and Perez are in the country and yesterday they were running the rb19 at Silverstone, so I could see it being likely

13th Feb also matches up with the previous info that RB would be doing a shakedown to select guests for charity on this date

https://twitter.com/PatagoniaBro/status ... Iim0Q&s=19
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I saw Max flew yesterday to Luton but didn't know why.
Thanks for this info! 👍
The Power of Dreams!

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Yesterday afternoon:

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Some Bigfoot footage of possible rb20 from today

I'm not seeing anything that would prevent this from being the rb19 though..





Note disconnected RW endplates. This was a feature of only the rb19's high df rear wing.

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Rear view suggestive of waterslides to me. Also can't see a floor edge wing.
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Higher engine cover channels, sort of like W14. Undercut looks pretty massive. Hint of a channel too.

Definitely not RB19 on these videos. The engine cover is the giveaway.
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Just some quick sharpness and dehazing on the phone, looks like the new car in my view. Looks like gulleys on top of engine cover and waterslides and slightly tighter bodywork around the PU. Undercut equal to or bigger than final RB19 spec.
And they call it a stall. A STALL!

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Vanja #66 wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2024 10:48 am
https://i.ibb.co/txTCGWd/PSX-20240213-104524.jpg

Just some quick sharpness and dehazing on the phone, looks like the new car in my view. Looks like gulleys on top of engine cover and waterslides. Undercut equal to or bigger than final RB19 spec.
Just me or is the floor edge wing gone? Maybe they've gone back to something like ice skates

From every angle I've used there is no sign of the floor edge wing

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organic wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2024 10:49 am
Just me or is the floor edge wing gone? Maybe they've gone back to something like ice skates
All I see are black lines :mrgreen:
And they call it a stall. A STALL!

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Vanja #66 wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2024 10:48 am
https://i.ibb.co/txTCGWd/PSX-20240213-104524.jpg

Just some quick sharpness and dehazing on the phone, looks like the new car in my view. Looks like gulleys on top of engine cover and waterslides and slightly tighter bodywork around the PU. Undercut equal to or bigger than final RB19 spec.
Look closely at the sidepod inlet. Does that look like a massive lower lip of shiny carbon? Looks absolutely huge and super high. Almost in line with the upper edge of the chassi.

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Is it me or does the engine sound have a higher pitch than previous years?