2024 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

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I think its clear that Ricciardo has the upper hand now vs Yuki.
Especially the last 5 races, Ricciardo should be in the Red Bull imo

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I think its clear that Ricciardo has the upper hand now vs Yuki.
Especially the last 5 races, Ricciardo should be in the Red Bull imo

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Big Gun wrote:
Fri Aug 09, 2024 8:06 pm
I think its clear that Ricciardo has the upper hand now vs Yuki.
Especially the last 5 races, Ricciardo should be in the Red Bull imo

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Big Gun wrote:
Fri Aug 09, 2024 8:06 pm
I think its clear that Ricciardo has the upper hand now vs Yuki.
Especially the last 5 races, Ricciardo should be in the Red Bull imo

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Marko now also admits to ESPN that when appointing the Australian in 2023, they wanted to see if there were opportunities for him
at Red Bull:
"If Daniel had clearly proven to be faster than Yuki, there would have been the idea to bring him back to Red Bull Racing.
But he has had his ups and downs. Up until now, he does not meet the criteria to be a Red Bull Racing driver."
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Big Gun wrote:
Fri Aug 09, 2024 8:06 pm
I think its clear that Ricciardo has the upper hand now vs Yuki.
Especially the last 5 races, Ricciardo should be in the Red Bull imo

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yuki has damage to his car that coudnt be fix before the race.he also had damage to his car in barcelona.the team just need to do its jop.

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Formula 2 title challenger Gabriel Bortoleto thinks Sergio Perez will lose his Red Bull seat at the end of F1 2024.

“I think Perez will be out next year,” Bortoleto said on a video cast on Motorsport.com‘s Brazilian subsidiary .

For me if he can win enough points to help Red Bull win the constructors championship this season, he is likely to keep his seat with Red Bull for the next season.
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stephen wrote:
Sun Aug 11, 2024 11:49 am
For me if he can win enough points to help Red Bull win the constructors championship this season, he is likely to keep his seat with Red Bull for the next season.
Currently, this is a really big IF.

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Tsunoda should be in the Red Bull seat.


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Jurgen von Diaz wrote:
Sun Aug 11, 2024 4:21 pm
Tsunoda should be in the Red Bull seat.

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From Motorsport.com:
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Supertimes gaps for the 10 team-mate pairings so far in 2024

To get a clearer view of the drivers’ actual speed, we’ve looked at supertimes. Supertimes are based on the fastest single lap by each driver at each race weekend, expressed as a percentage of the fastest single lap overall and averaged over the season.
This normally means qualifying and also has the benefit of largely (though not entirely) eradicating a driver struck with a problem or misfortune in a given session because it takes into account the whole weekend. It’s not perfect – it gives us no steer on how consistent a driver is over a race stint, for example – but for raw speed, it can be enlightening.

1. Gasly-Ocon 0.015%
2. Russell-Hamilton 0.101%
3. Leclerc-Sainz 0.134%
4. Norris-Piastri 0.185%
5. Tsunoda-Ricciardo 0.196%
6. Alonso-Stroll 0.211%
7. Hulkenberg-Magnussen 0.426%
8. Bottas-Zhou 0.643%
9. Albon-Sargeant 0.675%
10. Verstappen-Perez 0.953%

It should be noted that the gap between Tsunoda and Ricciardo has been closing in recent GPs.
The first thing to note is how remarkably close Alpine drivers Pierre Gasly and Esteban Ocon are.
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Much has been said and written about Perez’s struggles at Red Bull alongside Verstappen, but it’s worth putting
the current 0.953% gap into context.

Firstly, it’s the biggest gap between the two we’ve seen since they became team-mates for 2021, the closest being 0.545% in 2022.
That suggests that whatever the root of Perez’s problems are, they are not improving.
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Yuki being much younger has a much higher ceiling than Ricciardo. The stigma of being Japanese/Asian and also Honda backing is being held against him. It's clear this is Horner's decision and while people think that Ric is getting closer, it is more that Yuki doesn't give a --- anymore it seems.

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ispano6 wrote:
Sun Aug 11, 2024 5:33 pm
Yuki being much younger has a much higher ceiling than Ricciardo. The stigma of being Japanese/Asian and also Honda backing is being held against him. It's clear this is Horner's decision and while people think that Ric is getting closer, it is more that Yuki doesn't give a --- anymore it seems.
Albon raced for Red Bull. What does being Asian have to do with it?
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to be fair to redbull they are the only f1 team with drivers of diverse background from asian ,european ,middle eastern, south america,oceanic

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AR3-GP wrote:
Sun Aug 11, 2024 6:06 pm
ispano6 wrote:
Sun Aug 11, 2024 5:33 pm
Yuki being much younger has a much higher ceiling than Ricciardo. The stigma of being Japanese/Asian and also Honda backing is being held against him. It's clear this is Horner's decision and while people think that Ric is getting closer, it is more that Yuki doesn't give a --- anymore it seems.
Albon raced for Red Bull. What does being Asian have to do with it?
It's hard to pinpoint. But equating Alex and Yuki as the same "asian" is again an example of the "othering" aspect. Yuki has a cultural and language "barrier" to overcome compared to Alex. They've come through in vastly different ways, and they at least gave Alex a chance in the seat and deemed him too early. In any case, people will call out "attitude" but I remember Max, Seb, and don't see much difference in Yuki. People think of it as "disrespect toward your engineer etc" but it's not, drivers shouldn't have to be like that when they need a killer instinct, particularly when struggling to be competitive relative to your current position.

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Some good information describing HRC's perspective dealing with the 2024 season.

"Red Bull & HRC Close-Up: While they have achieved an "aggressive cooling system," they also struggle as their rivals recover. PU trouble is a "major point of regret"
Red Bull started using a cooling system that prioritized aerodynamics last year, and HRC made efforts to meet those demands. Specifically, the power unit cooling has margins in various areas to ensure reliability, but by discussing those margins with the team and changing the way the car is driven or the specifications of the cooling system, it is possible to eliminate areas that are not necessary. This allowed Red Bull to design the aerodynamics aggressively while still ensuring reliability.

As a result, Max Verstappen won two consecutive races at the start of the season for Red Bull Honda RBPT. The highlight of the first half of the season for Red Bull Honda RBPT was the Japanese GP, which was held in spring this year. Verstappen set the fastest lap and won the race, while his teammate Sergio Perez finished in second place. Shintaro Orihara (trackside general manager) of HRC also said the following.
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"HRC's best race was our home Grand Prix at Suzuka. Red Bull finished one-two and RB's (Tsunoda) Yuki got his first points win at Suzuka."

 However, for Red Bull Honda RBPT, this one-two finish at the Japanese GP was their last one-two in the first half of the season, and after this, the weaknesses of the RB20 gradually became apparent: the low, stiff suspension system that was designed to maximize aerodynamic efficiency.

 In fact, this weakness was also present last year, and was the cause of the team's defeat at the Singapore GP, which had a bumpy road surface. However, the team developed the RB20 without fundamentally resolving this problem. This year, apart from the Singapore GP, where the team was not particularly noticeable due to the poor performance of its rivals last year, the team struggled at the Australian GP, ​​which had a bumpy road surface, and the Canadian GP, ​​which had a circuit with high curbs.

 It also became clear that there were issues with the aerodynamics that prioritized aerodynamic efficiency. At the Hungarian Grand Prix, where there was less need to prioritize aerodynamic efficiency, Max Verstappen ran a completely different aero specification to the one he had been using until the first half of the season.

Furthermore, Honda's power units, which had been highly reliable until last year, also experienced unexpected problems. The biggest of these was a high-voltage problem that occurred in Max Verstappen's power unit at the 9th race, the Canadian Grand Prix.

"The problem with Max's power unit during free practice at the Canadian Grand Prix is ​​a major lesson learned from the first half of the season. Not only did we lose track time, we also lost an engine."

 The cause of the problem has now been identified and a fix has been put in place, and special testing of other engines in the pool has confirmed they do not suffer from the same problem as the Canadian Grand Prix, so it is unlikely that Verstappen will suffer a similar problem.


 However, the price was high. Having lost one engine, Verstappen and Red Bull decided to take a penalty at the Belgian Grand Prix and put in a fifth ICE for the second half of the season. Last year, Verstappen also received a 10-place grid penalty for an engine change at the Belgian Grand Prix, but he went on to win the race.

 However, they only managed to finish 4th in this year's Belgian Grand Prix. This is because the three rival teams, Mercedes, Ferrari and McLaren, who were in a slump in the first half of last year, have regained their form since the second half of last year and have regained their form since the first half of this year. This is also evident from the fact that this season has been a close one, with seven winners in the first half of the season alone.

 Last year, there were only three winners throughout the season, and only five in 2022, but this year there have been seven winners in just the first half of the season. The most recent season with seven or more winners was 2012, when there were eight winners, and the championship race went all the way to the final race.

 For Verstappen to win the Drivers' Championship for the fourth consecutive year, he must accumulate as many points as possible in the Singapore GP, Qatar GP, and Las Vegas GP, where he struggled last year. Furthermore, he must not allow any fatal problems to occur not only with the power unit but also with the car body.

 For Red Bull Honda RBPT to defend the constructors' championship, it is essential that Verstappen and his teammate score points. Red Bull held a meeting after the Belgian GP and decided to continue with Perez. The success or failure of that decision will be questioned in the second half of the season.
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