2024 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

[Vanja #66]

Nah, mclaren dominates 120-250 corners, of which there are many in brazil. If you look at f1-tempo from mexico you'll see mclaren is leagues ahead of ferrari in those.
Ferrari is good over kerbs and in general in slow speed, something not present in either brazil or qatar.
Mclaren was nearly on pace with Max in brazil already in 2023 and they were fastest in qatar. This year they'll cruise to easy win, provided norris doesnt do his usual choke with the best car.

I disregard Mexico, because these two cars were set up very differently, McLaren was down 5kmh on Top Speed and lately they are 1-2kmh down at most. Ferrari was down 15kmh in T7 and T9 in Q3 which is worse than RB19 vs SF23. Ferrari was down only 3kmh in Ascari this year, where McLaren used Spa wings vs Ferrari Monza wings.

Esses are Ferrari's main weakness since Monza (a lot smaller than they were in Japan though), I think this may be down to softer roll stiffness and on purpose, perhaps even an inherit trait of SF24 just like '22 and '23 cars.

[Juzh]

Nah, mclaren dominates 120-250 corners, of which there are many in brazil. If you look at f1-tempo from mexico you'll see mclaren is leagues ahead of ferrari in those.
Ferrari is good over kerbs and in general in slow speed, something not present in either brazil or qatar.
Mclaren was nearly on pace with Max in brazil already in 2023 and they were fastest in qatar. This year they'll cruise to easy win, provided norris doesnt do his usual choke with the best car.

I disregard Mexico, because these two cars were set up very differently, McLaren was down 5kmh on Top Speed and lately they are 1-2kmh down at most. Ferrari was down 15kmh in T7 and T9 in Q3 which is worse than RB19 vs SF23. Ferrari was down only 3kmh in Ascari this year, where McLaren used Spa wings vs Ferrari Monza wings.

Esses are Ferrari's main weakness since Monza (a lot smaller than they were in Japan though), I think this may be down to softer roll stiffness and on purpose, perhaps even an inherit trait of SF24 just like '22 and '23 cars.

Only a day left to find out. I still believe mclaren will walk it, but I'd happily be wrong.

[Vanja #66]

Only a day left to find out. I still believe mclaren will walk it, but I'd happily be wrong.

Only if weather plays nice for SQ at least I also expect McLaren stronger than Ferrari in any case, but rain on Sunday will be a huge factor

[bananapeel23]

Nah, mclaren dominates 120-250 corners, of which there are many in brazil. If you look at f1-tempo from mexico you'll see mclaren is leagues ahead of ferrari in those.
Ferrari is good over kerbs and in general in slow speed, something not present in either brazil or qatar.
Mclaren was nearly on pace with Max in brazil already in 2023 and they were fastest in qatar. This year they'll cruise to easy win, provided norris doesnt do his usual choke with the best car.

I disregard Mexico, because these two cars were set up very differently, McLaren was down 5kmh on Top Speed and lately they are 1-2kmh down at most. Ferrari was down 15kmh in T7 and T9 in Q3 which is worse than RB19 vs SF23. Ferrari was down only 3kmh in Ascari this year, where McLaren used Spa wings vs Ferrari Monza wings.

Esses are Ferrari's main weakness since Monza (a lot smaller than they were in Japan though), I think this may be down to softer roll stiffness and on purpose, perhaps even an inherit trait of SF24 just like '22 and '23 cars.

Is there even any point in comparing the Sao Paulo esses to the COTA/Japan/Jeddah/Silverstone esses? They are much slower, after a hard braking zone and downhill. Or were you just talking about esses in general, not specifically about Brazil?

[Vanja #66]

Is there even any point in comparing the Sao Paulo esses to the COTA/Japan/Jeddah/Silverstone esses? They are much slower, after a hard braking zone and downhill. Or were you just talking about esses in general, not specifically about Brazil?

I kind of consider Esses at least 4 apexes and high speed, T1-2-3 in Interlagos is a chicane and a high-speed full-throttle T3. I was talking about Esses in general, like Suzuka, Silverstone, COTA etc

[deadhead]

Yes, let's hope it stays dry because the SF24 will most likely be a better match to the competition than it was in Mexico.

https://x.com/LrLucaruocco/status/1851947211824758960

"Here we go to Interlagos. Let's start with the design. With the new SF-24 post Monza, I feel like saying that the only curves that are still scary are the medium-high speed ESSEs. A problem that has been there since the beginning of the year. Melbourne, Suzuka, Imola, Austria, Silverstone, Mexico."

[jambuka]

Wasn't Ferrari supposed to. bring some parts in Cota ? What happened ?

[Space-heat]

Wasn't Ferrari supposed to. bring some parts in Cota ? What happened ?

COTA was a sprint so always unlikely (we did get an updated FW wing (rumoured)). Maybe the data from the Monza package upgrade shifted development goals. I think Fred mentioned that there would be another package before end of year.

/https://formu1a.uno/it/doppietta-ferrar ... -in-qatar/

The one-two in Austin was a certification of the progress made by the SF-24 with the latest parts brought by the engineers led by Diego Tondi. They may not be the last updates we will see coming from Maranello this year, but Vasseur was very clear in explaining the situation “If we see something useful, we will bring it to the track. But not now, we will talk about it towards Qatar” said the French Team Principal directly. The development has entered a delicate phase in which it is also complicated to find big improvements. “I don’t know what the others are doing and the impact on the performance and driveability of the car. When you bring new parts you can also have some problems with the setup and therefore not immediately make the steps forward that you expect. At this point we are talking about marginal improvements “ .

[ScuderiaLeo]

Looking very bouncy at the moment. Both drivers complaining lots about the bumps and how unpredictable the tarmac is.

Both drivers also had to call off laps due to traffic. Including one where Leclerc set all purple minisectors.

Long runs look better but still lots of bounce on the straights.

[JPower]

The car looks OK. Not great. McLaren fast as expected, Lando was 4 tenths clear of Ferrari on his last run.

[Z-one]

Looking very bouncy at the moment. Both drivers complaining lots about the bumps and how unpredictable the tarmac is.

Both drivers also had to call off laps due to traffic. Including one where Leclerc set all purple minisectors.

Long runs look better but still lots of bounce on the straights.

in sector one or two？

[.Bole]

Car doesnt look good at all in S2. Feels like it was driven on ice

[jambuka]

Behind haas and Mercedes

[yooogurt]

Race pace is good, compared to Norris. But there are problems on the fast lap.

[Fakepivot]

temp has droped, my expectation for qualy is has dropped as well... top 5 finish would be win