2025 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

[yooogurt]

Now we'll have to figure out how to get around the new tougher tests

[JPower]

If these cars have been designed around the flexi-wings in the offseason, doesn't that mean that the TD could have a large impact on the everything else downstream?

It seems that it could be very costly in the development race.

[yooogurt]

If these cars have been designed around the flexi-wings in the offseason, doesn't that mean that the TD could have a large impact on the everything else downstream?

It seems that it could be very costly in the development race.

i like this version

[r85]

If these cars have been designed around the flexi-wings in the offseason, doesn't that mean that the TD could have a large impact on the everything else downstream?

It seems that it could be very costly in the development race.

i like this version

This is just pointless. This is the final year of the ground effect cars and they want to implement it in almost the 2nd half of the season? I wonder if it's a good idea for teams to start developing a Plan B front wing in case the TD comes into action, because a new design would be ready for use in April/May.

[yooogurt]

This is just pointless. This is the final year of the ground effect cars and they want to implement it in almost the 2nd half of the season? I wonder if it's a good idea for teams to start developing a Plan B front wing in case the TD comes into action, because a new design would be ready for use in April/May.

I also thought the introduction in May was strange, too late and unreasonable. It rly looks like they are leaving themselves the possibility of influencing the balance of power if it does not suit them. Seems really important to start the season well, ideally not alone.

[deadhead]

But starting the season too well could trigger the TD? Ridiculous on FIA’s part.

[F1NAC]

If these cars have been designed around the flexi-wings in the offseason, doesn't that mean that the TD could have a large impact on the everything else downstream?

It seems that it could be very costly in the development race.

i like this version

This is just pointless. This is the final year of the ground effect cars and they want to implement it in almost the 2nd half of the season? I wonder if it's a good idea for teams to start developing a Plan B front wing in case the TD comes into action, because a new design would be ready for use in April/May.

Probably because it takes time to develop and create new wing that can pass new TD

[yooogurt]

Probably because it takes time to develop and create new wing that can pass new TD

But remember how quickly they banned mini drs? or front wings to Aston in 23? or in 21 they didn't wait long.
And now they're giving a deadline of more than three months, hmm.

[Seanspeed]

i like this version

This is just pointless. This is the final year of the ground effect cars and they want to implement it in almost the 2nd half of the season? I wonder if it's a good idea for teams to start developing a Plan B front wing in case the TD comes into action, because a new design would be ready for use in April/May.

Probably because it takes time to develop and create new wing that can pass new TD

The problem has been brought to their attention since early in the 2024 season. By midseason they said, "Welp, we just figure we're not gonna do anything", because it benefited the championship to keep Mclaren strong at the time. Then later in the season they declared they wouldn't be doing anything about it for the 2025 season, probably in the misguided hope that they could recreate the 'close' 2024 season. This made it sound like the end of it, and that teams were safe to develop their own flexi wings and catch up properly or even optimize the car design in general around it.

Now they're basically flipping the script and saying, "Oh wait, actually no, we dont want this", which is going to mess with everybody.

They had basically a whole season to address the problem and give teams ample forewarning about increased limits. They could have tackled it midseason and barring that they definitely could have tackled it by end of season so teams knew what the restrictions would be for 2025.

This situation is just ridiculous.

[f1316]

Mark Hughes explains more about it here (basically a compromise between the teams who have already invested in it and the small ones who can’t): https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/f1-w ... rk-hughes/

But that’s also ridiculous because what teams have decided to do should not be the basis for the rule. For once I agree with Gary Anderson, it will distort the season: https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/gary ... tle-fight/

This is a broader point but what I don’t understand is why they don’t use the sensors they use for measuring deflection to also enforce. They say they can’t safely recreate the forces exerted on the wings in the paddock but when they want to figure out how much wings are flexing, they stick sensors on the car. Why not just disallow any car that has wing that deflects more than x in a competitive session? It would be similar to the fuel flow meters and could have carve outs for teams to prove force majeure etc

In any case, announcing before the start of the season that something will become illegal in the middle of the season is a bizarre middle ground that smacks of indecision.

[ScuderiaLeo]

All I can hope is that Ferrari already prepared for this possibility.

I can accept losing a title because of the team's failures, whether that's the car or the drivers. But I'll be livid if it's because of something like this putting them on the back foot for development.

[MTL79]

The FIA is the sporting equivalent to a banana republic...

[itAintPeter]

All I can hope is that Ferrari already prepared for this possibility.

I can accept losing a title because of the team's failures, whether that's the car or the drivers. But I'll be livid if it's because of something like this putting them on the back foot for development.

TD39 wants to know your location

[Chuckjr]

They are forcing the wing change like this to ensure if there is a dominant team, the directive could, and likely would, end their dominance. It's to create drama, storylines, more competition, and the like. It's forced spectical takes away from F1's integrity.

[sypack]

They are forcing the wing change like this to ensure if there is a dominant team, the directive could, and likely would, end their dominance. It's to create drama, storylines, more competition, and the like. It's forced spectical takes away from F1's integrity.

So if a team is dominant they will probably sanbag till May