Williams blocking increased brake disc sizes for 2010

[ISLAMATRON]

FOTA, in their own Press releases, tell you they got together and came up with the test Ban, it is all right there if you read. The WMSC RUBBERSTAMPED all of FOTA's ideas and put them into the rulebook. Luca was bragging and boasting about it all winter long, as if HE alone was the savior of the small teams.

I dont care about how you "read between the lines" because really all you are doing is making up your own version of the events.

The FIA only discussed the test ban after FOTA presented it to them. Same with the refueling ban.

And yet the "standard engines" which were not standard at all, but only what the manufacturers called them are still coming to F1 in the form of Cosworth. Coswoth's engines are no more "standard" than any other manufacturers engines which comply with the 2006 V-8 rules.

Agian I bring Links with evidence to support my claims, I have yet to see any from you, just rants about how you "read between the lines"... maybe you should take that to F1psychic.net.

[Richard]

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.... back to brake discs .... please?? [-o<

[timbo]

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Poor old Frank...

[axle]

IMO qadbak are dodgy as f*** I agree they need investigating...

[ISLAMATRON]

Yes and Ferrari's mafia connections should also be investigated. As well as the cocaine levels found in Red Bull, it could all be about drug smuggling. And BMW's WWWII's connections. And ING coming from the Dutch East India Company which made its fortunes selling African slaves and starting wars worldwide.... etc

Let the investigations begin!

[Paul]

Yes and Ferrari's mafia connections should also be investigated. As well as the cocaine levels found in Red Bull, it could all be about drug smuggling. And BMW's WWWII's connections. And ING coming from the Dutch East India Company which made its fortunes selling African slaves and starting wars worldwide.... etc

Let the investigations begin!

Wait, they didn't do anything bad to Max, did they? So nothing to investigate here... [-X

[xpensive]

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Poor old Frank...

...I think he's only doing as he is told these days, Concord agreement, KERS, Disc-brakes, a 14th team or whatever.

Sell the team and retire is my humble advice.

[timbo]

IMO qadbak are dodgy as f*** I agree they need investigating...

Is it Frank's business?
If he has some info he'd better report to interpol and not mumble "here always been 13 teams" bullsh*t.

[timbo]

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/04102009/ ... eturn.html

Poor old Frank...

...I think he's only doing as he is told these days, Concord agreement, KERS, Disc-brakes, a 14th team or whatever.

Sell the team and retire is my humble advice.

Yep.

[RacingManiac]

I can see why Williams opposed more teams though....I don't imagine the TV/commercial revenue be that different in F1 from year to year. More teams means more split in that pie and for the last true Privateer like Williams every penny counts....

[ISLAMATRON]

I can see why Williams opposed more teams though....I don't imagine the TV/commercial revenue be that different in F1 from year to year. More teams means more split in that pie and for the last true Privateer like Williams every penny counts....

Yes, That, and the rumor that the Qadbak/Sauber(former BMW) squad were to run Ferrari engines thus giving that side more votes & power inside of FOTA, which we know operates on a simple majority.

There seem to be 2 or 3 factions growing within FOTA depending on the matter at hand and the balance of power can easily be tipped by the vote of just 1 team.

[modbaraban]

On one had it's like making a statement that Williams don't care if another F1 team goes kaput with all the lost jobs, depreciation of F1 as a championship etc etc.

On the other hand it makes no difference whatsoever as Sauber are quite likely to be just the 10th team. I'm exaggerating perhaps.

[axle]

On one had it's like making a statement that Williams don't care if another F1 team goes kaput with all the lost jobs, depreciation of F1 as a championship etc etc.

IMO, Williams, like a few other people, doesn't expect all of the new teams to make it to the grid, so the change in the rules isn't required as he thinks there won't be more than 26 cars turning up in 2010.

However, I believe he's being a bit unfair expecting a team like the exBMW squad to be on a shortlist as they do have a lot of people to look after, however, equally, if one of the teams isn't going to make it then they should say so earlier than later as they have the budget cap scrapping as a perfect excuse.

[ISLAMATRON]

the exBMW squad had every opportunity to link up with the new "Lotus" team but chose to go in a different direction which took too long to complete and thus cost them their grid spots. I dont think WilliamsF1 need to have much sympathy towards them when they had a chance to be on the grid and blew it.

The teams will be there, but 2 out of the three will be very very slow and might not make the full year. Manor looks set to go, as does Campos, USF1 is stretching it but they have financial backing. Lotus we no nothing about, but they have huge financial backing from the MAlaysian gov't do they not?

[timbo]

the exBMW squad had every opportunity to link up with the new "Lotus" team but chose to go in a different direction which took too long to complete and thus cost them their grid spots. I dont think WilliamsF1 need to have much sympathy towards them when they had a chance to be on the grid and blew it.

You have any info apart from rumors?
You know how much money BMW wanted and how much "Lotus" had to offer?

Lotus we no nothing about, but they have huge financial backing from the MAlaysian gov't do they not?

But you implied that they at least had adequate money to offer to BMW, hadn't you?