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Leclerc

“We just need a better car. And I think a turning point for the season will be in Barcelona, with a new front wing, I hope it can play a little in our favour.”

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What I find so odd is that both Russell and Leclerc have commented on these wings, even though their own team is using them. People really seem to think the Mclaren in particular will be completely unraveled by this TD. Why so specific?
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Is Zak planting the seed (or excuses) for Spain?
So I kind of feel like everyone’s just one upgrade away from being that lead car,” Brown continued.

“You saw what we did last year from Miami. Probably the lead was bigger this time last year with Red Bull and yet they finished third in the championship. So we’re well-grounded in the reality of how quickly the sport can change.”
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Rikhart wrote:
11 Apr 2025, 12:18
Maybe we should open a new topic:

FlexiCARS
Indeed, or morphing beings. At this point it's more akin to physiology.

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Guys, what about the rear wing structures? In Barcelona they will do something in there or the TD nothing has to do with that ?

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bluechris wrote:
25 Apr 2025, 08:30
Guys, what about the rear wing structures? In Barcelona they will do something in there or the TD nothing has to do with that ?
Won't change the rear.

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I think it’s going to be interesting. Especially now more comments from teams are coming out.
Horner said it was a season of 2 halves when asked about the change. Now drivers are saying it’s going to change.

I imagine the gains from the front flexing wing is more than meets eye
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

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Another one from Leclerc
winning is the only thing that interests me. there’s going to be a really important stop in spain, when the front wing will be more- (smiles) it will be changed. let’s wait, it’s going to be really important.
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I said this many pages ago and I'll say it again. If so unimportant, why round 9? Why not introduce the TD from the start of the year? Which teams made the FIA delay it? :?:

It is a front wing in ground effect (unlike rear wing). 5mm at speed can change a lot.
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Maybe the FIA has warned the teams that the static test is just 1 part of it, video footage of wings bending like hell at df speeds which are just over the weight of the static test means exclusion as soon as another team protests it.

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AR3-GP wrote:
26 Apr 2025, 22:10
I said this many pages ago and I'll say it again. If so unimportant, why round 9? Why not introduce the TD from the start of the year? Which teams made the FIA delay it? :?:

It is a front wing in ground effect (unlike rear wing). 5mm at speed can change a lot.
McLaren and mercedes pushed for it not to be introduced immediately iirc

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organic wrote:
27 Apr 2025, 20:42
AR3-GP wrote:
26 Apr 2025, 22:10
I said this many pages ago and I'll say it again. If so unimportant, why round 9? Why not introduce the TD from the start of the year? Which teams made the FIA delay it? :?:

It is a front wing in ground effect (unlike rear wing). 5mm at speed can change a lot.
McLaren and mercedes pushed for it not to be introduced immediately iirc
Because it would have implicated huge costs for the teams, in an era with budget limits and in time frame (January) where most of the teams have 95% of the car ready for pre season test and race 1 to 3
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bauc wrote:
28 Apr 2025, 14:08
organic wrote:
27 Apr 2025, 20:42
AR3-GP wrote:
26 Apr 2025, 22:10
I said this many pages ago and I'll say it again. If so unimportant, why round 9? Why not introduce the TD from the start of the year? Which teams made the FIA delay it? :?:

It is a front wing in ground effect (unlike rear wing). 5mm at speed can change a lot.
McLaren and mercedes pushed for it not to be introduced immediately iirc
Because it would have implicated huge costs for the teams, in an era with budget limits and in time frame (January) where most of the teams have 95% of the car ready for pre season test and race 1 to 3
Is there a big cost to making an identical wing more rigid? Sounds like this will cause significant changes elsewhere on certain cars.

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RonMexico wrote:
28 Apr 2025, 14:24
bauc wrote:
28 Apr 2025, 14:08
organic wrote:
27 Apr 2025, 20:42


McLaren and mercedes pushed for it not to be introduced immediately iirc
Because it would have implicated huge costs for the teams, in an era with budget limits and in time frame (January) where most of the teams have 95% of the car ready for pre season test and race 1 to 3
Is there a big cost to making an identical wing more rigid? Sounds like this will cause significant changes elsewhere on certain cars.
Have in mind that the hole car is designed to incorporate that flex level, so changing that, will mean changing a lot of the car from the front-wing going backwards.
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bauc wrote:
28 Apr 2025, 14:29
RonMexico wrote:
28 Apr 2025, 14:24
bauc wrote:
28 Apr 2025, 14:08


Because it would have implicated huge costs for the teams, in an era with budget limits and in time frame (January) where most of the teams have 95% of the car ready for pre season test and race 1 to 3
Is there a big cost to making an identical wing more rigid? Sounds like this will cause significant changes elsewhere on certain cars.
Have in mind that the hole car is designed to incorporate that flex level, so changing that, will mean changing a lot of the car from the front-wing going backwards.

There is a speculation that Mclaren, is already on this level (5mm) and this is why they are suffering from rear instability as this more rigid wing is not cooperating in full with the rest of the car and that Mclaren are hoping this will be fixed in a update or two, the thinking here is that they decided on a gamble here so we will see if this is true or not very soon.
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bauc wrote:
28 Apr 2025, 14:08
organic wrote:
27 Apr 2025, 20:42
AR3-GP wrote:
26 Apr 2025, 22:10
I said this many pages ago and I'll say it again. If so unimportant, why round 9? Why not introduce the TD from the start of the year? Which teams made the FIA delay it? :?:

It is a front wing in ground effect (unlike rear wing). 5mm at speed can change a lot.
McLaren and mercedes pushed for it not to be introduced immediately iirc
Because it would have implicated huge costs for the teams, in an era with budget limits and in time frame (January) where most of the teams have 95% of the car ready for pre season test and race 1 to 3
It costs more to have to design a wing for races 1-9 and 9-24 than it does to just accept the change for round 1 and make 1 wing

If your argument is that some teams have to redesign their cars around the new flex level, then they were the target of the FIA's clampdown.
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